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18:51:48 <cabanier> https://twitter.com/NianticEng/status/1663533912805752832
19:00:31 <cabanier> What is the zoom meeting?
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19:03:46 <ada_> Hi, I just rememebered the URL changed to the zoom one and the meeting template has the old URL
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19:09:27 <bajones> TOPIC: Allow adjustment of display time https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr/issues/1328
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19:10:19 <bajones> rik: WebXR gives display time, which is when it thinks the frame will be displayed. Also does reprojection automatically.
19:11:02 <bajones> ... got a question from a streaming service that indicated they needed to do reprojection themselves due to increased latency.
19:11:40 <bajones> ... Rik thinks we could do the reprojection internally, but we need to know when the frame was originally projected to display.
19:12:05 <bajones> ... Proposal is to make the display time writable, needs some reasonable limits (can't do a year in the future)
19:12:15 <bajones> ... OpenXR already supports this
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19:12:41 <Koolala> OpenXR also supports requesting XR position data at any frame - does WebXR?
19:12:42 <cabanier> bajones: so the reprojection is an internal detail
19:12:55 <cabanier> ... that is based is based on the original projection time
19:13:08 <cabanier> ... the page thinks you present in 50ms
19:13:30 <cabanier> .... when you present in 55 ms, the delta will be applied to the actual pose
19:14:10 <cabanier> ... my question is: it seems that if the original time was xyz, the system would have to recalculate
19:14:25 <cabanier> .. I delivered a pose, I delivered a frame back
19:14:43 <Koolala> This slows down a user's input time then - is there a way to get new pose time too?
19:16:04 <Koolala> XR HMD POS -> Server -> WebXR
19:18:25 <Koolala> Could this be done by just lagging your XR app until you get a reply from the server? But that can't work because you can't get HMD / Pos - so it could be for an older XR object like that!
19:19:20 <Koolala> Cloud Multiplayer would totally do reproject on the server too
19:19:40 <Koolala> Declarative Frame Time!
19:19:44 <Koolala> Like CSS!!!
19:21:22 <Koolala> Why can not this be implemented with a Layer like this? Why is there not a  WebXR Layer like Quad Layers?
19:23:15 <Koolala> WebXR Layer requests server rendering -> WebXR sends pos -> WebXR gets view from pos lagged in time -> WebXR Layer renders old async render
19:23:28 <Koolala> Async WebXR!
19:24:30 <Koolala> this could work for Modules in JS too! WebXR running in an iframe streaming data into the main system
19:26:49 <CharlesL> XR Access Symposium June 15/16 https://xraccess.org/symposium/
19:27:07 <cabanier> CharlesL: I will let you know about the xr access symposion in New York
19:27:27 <cabanier> ... they do have subsidized event tickets for non-profits and universities
19:27:45 <cabanier> ... I will be speaking on behalf of the social sense XR
19:28:09 <cabanier> ada_: there is a fund for TPAC and they are looking for funding
19:28:26 <cabanier> ... if your organization can help attend TPAC, please reach out and propose it
19:28:47 <cabanier> CharlesL: will we have a face to face at TPAC?
19:28:58 <cabanier> ada_: yes. We already have times
19:29:31 <cabanier> ... we will have overlap with apa, webapps and webgpu
19:29:40 <cabanier> ... and we should also have a meeting with aria
19:30:21 <Koolala> Awesme thanks everyone!
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23:59:59 <scribe> meeting: Immersive-Web WG/CG bi-weekly call
23:59:59 <scribe> chair: Ada
23:59:59 <scribe> agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2023-05-30-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
23:59:59 <scribe> i/XR Access Symposium June/topic: AOB/
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