13:21:01 RRSAgent has joined #adapt 13:21:05 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/05/22-adapt-irc 13:21:05 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:21:06 Meeting: WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference 13:21:06 Date: 22 May 2023 13:21:23 agenda? 13:22:33 zakim, clear agenda 13:22:33 agenda cleared 13:22:42 chair: Sharon 13:23:10 agenda+ Administrivia: No meeting on Memorial Day (29 May) 13:23:20 agenda+ A11y4Children ontology follow-ups 13:23:34 agenda+ Issue 240, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 13:23:43 agenda+ Gap Analysis, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Gap-Analysis 13:23:54 agenda+ Review open issues 13:24:07 agenda+ Test to show rendering symbols do not 'break' existing pages 13:24:17 agenda+ Recruiting 13:24:27 agenda+ Registry update 13:24:38 agenda+ Symbol Module Implementations 13:24:49 agenda+ User Agents and Symbols (e.g. Immersive Reader) 13:24:55 agenda? 13:57:02 Sharon has joined #adapt 13:57:43 agenda? 13:59:19 janina has joined #adapt 14:04:38 matatk has joined #adapt 14:06:26 zakim, who's here?present+ 14:06:26 I don't understand 'who's here?present+', janina 14:06:30 scribe+ 14:06:33 zakim, next item 14:06:33 agendum 1 -- Administrivia: No meeting on Memorial Day (29 May) -- taken up [from Sharon] 14:06:35 present+ janina 14:06:38 present+ 14:06:47 rrsagent, make minutes 14:06:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/22-adapt-minutes.html matatk 14:06:57 present+ 14:08:59 No meeting for U.S. Memorial Day, Monday 29 May!That's next week.zakim, next item 14:11:47 We're still in process of updating our Zoom. Expect new next time. 14:11:51 zakim, next item 14:11:51 agendum 2 -- A11y4Children ontology follow-ups -- taken up [from Sharon] 14:12:43 Sharon: Notes response from A11y Chn CG; we're waiting for their suggested times. 14:12:49 zakim, next item 14:12:49 agendum 2 was just opened, janina 14:12:54 zakim, close this item 14:12:54 agendum 2 closed 14:12:55 I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:12:55 3. Issue 240, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 [from Sharon] 14:12:55 zakim, next item 14:12:56 agendum 3 -- Issue 240, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 -- taken up [from Sharon] 14:14:08 Discussion has it's Lionel's draft response action, and will be run by Russell before posting 14:14:19 zakim, close this item 14:14:19 agendum 3 closed 14:14:20 I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:14:20 4. Gap Analysis, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Gap-Analysis [from Sharon] 14:14:23 zakim, next item 14:14:23 agendum 4 -- Gap Analysis, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Gap-Analysis -- taken up [from Sharon] 14:14:55 matatk: Regrets personal items interfered recently 14:15:17 matatk: Am working on it, and expects activity by next mtg 14:15:27 matatk: Authoring also getting close, but not yet there 14:16:36 Sharon: Asks about the ping to Lisa on sortable table? Update? 14:17:22 janina: Lisa did see it, but may have forgotten due to other items. She's also cancelled the COGA planning call Tuesday, so we're some time away from an update 14:18:07 zakim, next item 14:18:07 agendum 5 -- Review open issues -- taken up [from Sharon] 14:18:21 https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues 14:18:54 sharon: asks about well-known urls 14:19:00 matatk: yes, some update 14:19:12 matatk: designed for passwd managers to update on sites 14:19:24 matatk: accidentally created a framework that might work for us 14:20:03 matatk: Planning to come up with a draft doc before TPAC for TPAC discussion -- an alternative to destination is the possibility 14:21:07 matatk: Have been having arch design conversations 14:22:16 matatk: Notes mtg with WG requested for TPAC 14:22:29 Lionel_Wolberger has joined #Adapt 14:22:32 present+ 14:22:40 rrsagent, make minutes 14:22:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/22-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger 14:22:54 matatk: Notes that it also builds on more advanced work coming out of A11yEdge CG 14:23:14 q? 14:23:24 Sharon: Anything to put as a comment for now? 14:23:33 matatk: Turn it into an action 14:23:39 +1 14:25:49 lionel: Q how one well-known can support multiple actions? 14:26:20 matatk: Spec written for one use case, but by doing so they've reserved the /well-known/XX name space for exploitation! 14:26:32 matatk: Think of a 301 14:27:12 matatk: Polling would be too cumberson, so we need a .json file to help; and that would mean we don't even need the endpoints 14:27:26 matatk: So multiple ways to implement that we'll explore with browsers 14:27:47 matatk: Also, we need to protect extensibility, e.g. help -- help with what? 14:28:07 matatk: So, not sure what all the answers are yet 14:28:17 https://apple.com/.well-known/change-password 14:28:23 https://facebook.com/.well-known/change-password 14:28:35 Lionel_Wolberger: Apple and FaceBook have already implemented. Very exciting, could really go far 14:31:40 Sharon: Looks at a 404 in content module ... who Sharon Will file and cross ref 14:32:03 Sharon: Issue 222 ... 14:32:33 matatk: A tool by which we querie top 10M web pages to see what happens? 14:35:57 sharon: Should we action-required? So we don't lose until ready to respond? 14:36:00 janina: Yes 14:37:23 matatk: Suggests we might get ahead of this by noting much has changed since 476 and will show latest thinking as soon as our updated gap analysis is ready 14:37:27 matatk: Should be soon 14:38:46 zakim, who's here 14:38:46 matatk, you need to end that query with '?' 14:38:48 zakim, who's here? 14:38:48 Present: janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Sharon, Roy, Russell, matatk 14:38:50 On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, janina, Sharon, RRSAgent, Roy, ghurlbot, Mike5Matrix, Github, justinestrada, sdd, imlostlmao, gonzu_15, Zakim, trackbot 14:39:40 ghurlbot, use w3c/adapt 14:39:40 Roy, OK. 14:39:47 sharon: Will keep on our agenda 14:39:53 #221 14:39:54 https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/221 -> Issue 221 WAI-Adapt fallbacks to equivalent microformats (Seirdy) 14:42:56 Sharon: Looking at 221matsharonissue 221 seems to have a response? micro-formatssharnotes conversation in the issue 14:43:04 matatk: same as my overall gap analysis action 14:44:26 Sharon: issue 202 14:44:33 #202 14:44:34 https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/202 -> Issue 202 WCAG 2.2 use of personalization (rachaelbradley) implementation, 1) content module 14:45:14 matatk: Nothing on this until content module sorted 14:46:25 #197 14:46:25 https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/197 -> Issue 197 Privacy and Security Considerations section review for Personalization Semantics Content (ruoxiran) privacy-tracker, security-tracker 14:51:02 janina: Notes APA Charter now out for AC votingsharNotes issues 53 and 54 --rdf? 14:51:56 https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/53 14:54:32 This is the page that metions RDF et al: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Comparison-of-ways-to-use-vocabulary-in-content 14:56:54 matatk has left #adapt 14:57:49 https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9084 15:04:46 Sharon: Do we even need these still?This is our formal request to WHAT WGzakim, end meeting 15:05:01 zakim, end meeting 15:05:01 As of this point the attendees have been janina, mike_beganyi, Lionel_Wolberger, Sharon, Roy, Russell, matatk 15:05:03 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 15:05:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/22-adapt-minutes.html Zakim 15:05:11 I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 15:05:11 Zakim has left #adapt 15:05:31 rrsagent, bye 15:05:31 I see no action items