IRC log of adapt on 2023-05-22

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Meeting: WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference

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Date: 22 May 2023

13:21:23 [Sharon]

agenda?

13:22:33 [Sharon]

zakim, clear agenda

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agenda cleared

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chair: Sharon

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agenda+ Administrivia: No meeting on Memorial Day (29 May)

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agenda+ A11y4Children ontology follow-ups

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agenda+ Issue 240, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240

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agenda+ Gap Analysis, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Gap-Analysis

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agenda+ Review open issues

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agenda+ Test to show rendering symbols do not 'break' existing pages

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agenda+ Recruiting

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agenda+ Registry update

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agenda+ Symbol Module Implementations

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agenda+ User Agents and Symbols (e.g. Immersive Reader)

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agenda?

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agenda?

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14:06:26 [janina]

zakim, who's here?present+

14:06:26 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'who's here?present+', janina

14:06:30 [janina]

scribe+

14:06:33 [janina]

zakim, next item

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agendum 1 -- Administrivia: No meeting on Memorial Day (29 May) -- taken up [from Sharon]

14:06:35 [matatk]

present+ janina

14:06:38 [matatk]

present+

14:06:47 [matatk]

rrsagent, make minutes

14:06:49 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/22-adapt-minutes.html matatk

14:06:57 [Roy]

present+

14:08:59 [janina]

No meeting for U.S. Memorial Day, Monday 29 May!That's next week.zakim, next item

14:11:47 [janina]

We're still in process of updating our Zoom. Expect new next time.

14:11:51 [janina]

zakim, next item

14:11:51 [Zakim]

agendum 2 -- A11y4Children ontology follow-ups -- taken up [from Sharon]

14:12:43 [janina]

Sharon: Notes response from A11y Chn CG; we're waiting for their suggested times.

14:12:49 [janina]

zakim, next item

14:12:49 [Zakim]

agendum 2 was just opened, janina

14:12:54 [janina]

zakim, close this item

14:12:54 [Zakim]

agendum 2 closed

14:12:55 [Zakim]

I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:12:55 [Zakim]

3. Issue 240, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 [from Sharon]

14:12:55 [janina]

zakim, next item

14:12:56 [Zakim]

agendum 3 -- Issue 240, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 -- taken up [from Sharon]

14:14:08 [janina]

Discussion has it's Lionel's draft response action, and will be run by Russell before posting

14:14:19 [janina]

zakim, close this item

14:14:19 [Zakim]

agendum 3 closed

14:14:20 [Zakim]

I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:14:20 [Zakim]

4. Gap Analysis, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Gap-Analysis [from Sharon]

14:14:23 [janina]

zakim, next item

14:14:23 [Zakim]

agendum 4 -- Gap Analysis, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Gap-Analysis -- taken up [from Sharon]

14:14:55 [janina]

matatk: Regrets personal items interfered recently

14:15:17 [janina]

matatk: Am working on it, and expects activity by next mtg

14:15:27 [janina]

matatk: Authoring also getting close, but not yet there

14:16:36 [janina]

Sharon: Asks about the ping to Lisa on sortable table? Update?

14:17:22 [janina]

janina: Lisa did see it, but may have forgotten due to other items. She's also cancelled the COGA planning call Tuesday, so we're some time away from an update

14:18:07 [janina]

zakim, next item

14:18:07 [Zakim]

agendum 5 -- Review open issues -- taken up [from Sharon]

14:18:21 [Sharon]

https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues

14:18:54 [janina]

sharon: asks about well-known urls

14:19:00 [janina]

matatk: yes, some update

14:19:12 [janina]

matatk: designed for passwd managers to update on sites

14:19:24 [janina]

matatk: accidentally created a framework that might work for us

14:20:03 [janina]

matatk: Planning to come up with a draft doc before TPAC for TPAC discussion -- an alternative to destination is the possibility

14:21:07 [janina]

matatk: Have been having arch design conversations

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matatk: Notes mtg with WG requested for TPAC

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present+

14:22:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]

rrsagent, make minutes

14:22:42 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/22-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger

14:22:54 [janina]

matatk: Notes that it also builds on more advanced work coming out of A11yEdge CG

14:23:14 [Lionel_Wolberger]

q?

14:23:24 [janina]

Sharon: Anything to put as a comment for now?

14:23:33 [janina]

matatk: Turn it into an action

14:23:39 [janina]

+1

14:25:49 [janina]

lionel: Q how one well-known can support multiple actions?

14:26:20 [janina]

matatk: Spec written for one use case, but by doing so they've reserved the /well-known/XX name space for exploitation!

14:26:32 [janina]

matatk: Think of a 301

14:27:12 [janina]

matatk: Polling would be too cumberson, so we need a .json file to help; and that would mean we don't even need the endpoints

14:27:26 [janina]

matatk: So multiple ways to implement that we'll explore with browsers

14:27:47 [janina]

matatk: Also, we need to protect extensibility, e.g. help -- help with what?

14:28:07 [janina]

matatk: So, not sure what all the answers are yet

14:28:17 [Lionel_Wolberger]

https://apple.com/.well-known/change-password

14:28:23 [Lionel_Wolberger]

https://facebook.com/.well-known/change-password

14:28:35 [janina]

Lionel_Wolberger: Apple and FaceBook have already implemented. Very exciting, could really go far

14:31:40 [janina]

Sharon: Looks at a 404 in content module ... who Sharon Will file and cross ref

14:32:03 [janina]

Sharon: Issue 222 ...

14:32:33 [janina]

matatk: A tool by which we querie top 10M web pages to see what happens?

14:35:57 [janina]

sharon: Should we action-required? So we don't lose until ready to respond?

14:36:00 [janina]

janina: Yes

14:37:23 [janina]

matatk: Suggests we might get ahead of this by noting much has changed since 476 and will show latest thinking as soon as our updated gap analysis is ready

14:37:27 [janina]

matatk: Should be soon

14:38:46 [matatk]

zakim, who's here

14:38:46 [Zakim]

matatk, you need to end that query with '?'

14:38:48 [matatk]

zakim, who's here?

14:38:48 [Zakim]

Present: janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Sharon, Roy, Russell, matatk

14:38:50 [Zakim]

On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, janina, Sharon, RRSAgent, Roy, ghurlbot, Mike5Matrix, Github, justinestrada, sdd, imlostlmao, gonzu_15, Zakim, trackbot

14:39:40 [Roy]

ghurlbot, use w3c/adapt

14:39:40 [ghurlbot]

Roy, OK.

14:39:47 [janina]

sharon: Will keep on our agenda

14:39:53 [Roy]

#221

14:39:54 [ghurlbot]

https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/221 -> Issue 221 WAI-Adapt fallbacks to equivalent microformats (Seirdy)

14:42:56 [janina]

Sharon: Looking at 221matsharonissue 221 seems to have a response? micro-formatssharnotes conversation in the issue

14:43:04 [janina]

matatk: same as my overall gap analysis action

14:44:26 [janina]

Sharon: issue 202

14:44:33 [Roy]

#202

14:44:34 [ghurlbot]

https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/202 -> Issue 202 WCAG 2.2 use of personalization (rachaelbradley) implementation, 1) content module

14:45:14 [janina]

matatk: Nothing on this until content module sorted

14:46:25 [Roy]

#197

14:46:25 [ghurlbot]

https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/197 -> Issue 197 Privacy and Security Considerations section review for Personalization Semantics Content (ruoxiran) privacy-tracker, security-tracker

14:51:02 [janina]

janina: Notes APA Charter now out for AC votingsharNotes issues 53 and 54 --rdf?

14:51:56 [Sharon]

https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/53

14:54:32 [matatk]

This is the page that metions RDF et al: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Comparison-of-ways-to-use-vocabulary-in-content

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14:57:49 [Sharon]

https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9084

15:04:46 [janina]

Sharon: Do we even need these still?This is our formal request to WHAT WGzakim, end meeting

15:05:01 [janina]

zakim, end meeting

15:05:01 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been janina, mike_beganyi, Lionel_Wolberger, Sharon, Roy, Russell, matatk

15:05:03 [Zakim]

RRSAgent, please draft minutes

15:05:05 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/22-adapt-minutes.html Zakim

15:05:11 [Zakim]

I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye

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rrsagent, bye

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I see no action items