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12:05:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
12:05:24 <trackbot> Date: 26 April 2023
12:05:45 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
12:05:50 <jasonjgw> present+
12:05:55 <jasonjgw> scribe+
12:06:10 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Structure and synchronization of media resources.
12:06:10 <jasonjgw> agenda+ TPAC 2023 meeting plans.
12:06:10 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Universal Design for Learning Guidelines: request from WAI-Adapt Task Force.
12:06:13 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements.
12:06:16 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Natural language interface accessibility in view of recent developments.
12:06:18 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous updates and topics.
12:06:33 <jasonjgw> zakim, agenda?
12:06:33 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
12:06:34 <Zakim> 1. Structure and synchronization of media resources. [from jasonjgw]
12:06:34 <Zakim> 2. TPAC 2023 meeting plans. [from jasonjgw]
12:06:34 <Zakim> 3. Universal Design for Learning Guidelines: request from WAI-Adapt Task Force. [from jasonjgw]
12:06:35 <Zakim> 4. Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
12:06:35 <Zakim> 5. Natural language interface accessibility in view of recent developments. [from jasonjgw]
12:06:35 <Zakim> 6. Miscellaneous updates and topics. [from jasonjgw]
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12:51:15 <janina> agenda?
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13:00:21 <SteveNoble> present+
13:01:05 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:01:05 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Structure and synchronization of media resources. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:01:16 <SteveNoble> scribe: SteveNoble
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13:03:44 <scott_h> present+
13:05:09 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Good discussion last week - still working through draft email for inviting Timed Text, but that still needs more work
13:06:16 <SteveNoble> janina: Also looking for possible inviting additional groups to get a wide-ranging conversation
13:08:58 <SteveNoble> janina: We have been discussing things like applying AAC symbol sets for synchronization
13:10:03 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Aware of work under way on podcast media, but not sure if these are actual standards in process
13:11:10 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:11:10 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2023 meeting plans. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:11:50 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Joint working group meetings are being discussed
13:12:25 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: We should consider other joint meetings would be advantageous
13:12:44 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/
13:12:51 <SteveNoble> janina: In Seville Spain the week of September 11
13:14:19 <SteveNoble> janina: We need to let APA know what joint group meetings we would like to arrange, length of meetings, etc.
13:14:58 <SteveNoble> janina: We need to identify these meetings by next week
13:15:35 <SteveNoble> janina: Other thoughts?
13:15:55 <SteveNoble> scott_h: Verifiable Credentials would be a good group
13:16:15 <SteveNoble> scott_h: Also perhaps COGA and WCAG
13:16:51 <SteveNoble> janina: Unfortunately, COGA has already mentioned they cannot meet that week
13:17:07 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: What about CAPTHA work?
13:17:53 <SteveNoble> janina: Not sure about CAPTCHA, but verifiable credentials seems a good direction
13:18:56 <SteveNoble> janina: Some possible discussions on overlays
13:19:12 <janina> https://a11yedge.github.io/capabilities/
13:19:46 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: The Web of Things addressing system configuration issues.
13:20:54 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Performance is another one
13:21:03 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Others?
13:22:22 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Perhaps discussion on the CTAUR
13:24:01 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Some discussion on metaverse standards and XR, but TPAC may be too early for that
13:25:18 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:25:18 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Universal Design for Learning Guidelines: request from WAI-Adapt Task Force. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:26:06 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: The precise questions are still in process
13:27:29 <SteveNoble> janina: Discussion with a former CAST staffer; some considerations on web accessibility for children
13:28:53 <SteveNoble> janina: There is a web accessibility for children community group which has been looking at this
13:30:13 <SteveNoble> janina: Still looking at the architectural structure and personalization of web content
13:31:06 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Note that the UDL page already has an extensive literature base
13:31:59 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Not much more to do until the details on what they want to know comes in
13:33:12 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:33:12 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:35:00 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Added a note to the Wiki page to state that it was out of date and people should look at the latest document
13:35:59 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:36:00 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Natural language interface accessibility in view of recent developments. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:37:10 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Continuation of discussion on large language models
13:38:16 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: The user interface for these applications have not been necessarily developed with accessibility in mind
13:38:47 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Since most a
13:39:16 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Is this an issue worth further discussion?
13:40:20 <SteveNoble> janina: Yes. Reminded of Jutta's recent presentation on this...lots of points could be included
13:41:13 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: The unplanned unscripted nature of the interaction makes accessibility an issue
13:41:40 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: When user interactions cannot be predicted in advance
13:43:38 <SteveNoble> janina: Discussion around training these agents to input signing
13:44:47 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Mentioned 2019 Microsoft research paper on automated sign language input/output as a good read
13:47:04 <SteveNoble> scott_h: We should keep this dicussion going
13:47:42 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Will keep this on future agendas
13:48:04 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:48:04 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Miscellaneous updates and topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:49:08 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Large language models are good at summarizing text, so that might be an accessibility angle to consider
13:50:45 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Saw a recent announcement from Google stating their AI can solve programming problems
13:53:31 <SteveNoble> janina: A new APA task force is in the works, FAST
13:55:38 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: There will be an opportunity to vote on taskforce formation
13:56:13 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:56:13 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, SteveNoble, scott_h
13:56:14 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:56:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/26-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:56:23 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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