IRC log of apa on 2023-04-26
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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- Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
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- Date 26 Apr 2023
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- agenda?
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- Chair: Janina
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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- agenda+ TPAC 2023 Planning
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- agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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- agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
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- agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
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- agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ be done
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- /join #rqtf
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- scribe: Fredrik
- 14:01:42 [janina]
- present+
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- present+
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- zakim, open next agendum
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
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- present+
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 1 closed
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- I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. TPAC 2023 Planning [from janina]
- 14:04:47 [Fredrik]
- zakim, open next item
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- agendum 2 -- TPAC 2023 Planning -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:04:58 [matatk]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
- 14:06:15 [Fredrik]
- matatk: There is a Wiki page up for TPAC 2023.
- 14:06:15 [Alisa_Smith]
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- matatk: Right now it's very simple: just the groups we want to talk to and why.
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- 14:06:57 [Fredrik]
- matatk: Officially the meetings at TPAC are between WGs. Some of these, at the moment, they are just in terms of other working groups. If we have agenda concerning specific TFs, we may request multiple meetings with their respective WGs.
- 14:07:00 [Alisa_Smith]
- present+
- 14:07:14 [Fredrik]
- matatk: For now, we want to know with whom, why and for how long meetings should be arranged.
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- janina: It#s a very active time for RQTF and for us in general. We want to keep those conversations going, things coming from RQTF, things coming fronm Adapt etc.
- 14:10:53 [Fredrik]
- janina: Most TFs are generating most of the cross-group conversations, apparently. At least for the nunce.
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- zkaim, open next item
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- zakim, next itme
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- I don't understand 'next itme', Fredrik
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:11:48 [Roy]
- subtopic: Revise Web Payments WG charter to restore some text
- 14:11:48 [Roy]
- - charter: https://www.w3.org/Payments/WG/charter-2023.html
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- - diff: https://www.w3.org/Payments/WG/charter-diff-2023.html
- 14:12:08 [Fredrik]
- Roy: A new charter: Web Payments WG.
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- Roy: There are things worth considering about the scope.
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- janina: Even aPIs are within scope to us.
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- janina: We want accessible receipts. That may be an API function.
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- 14:14:50 [janina]
- q?
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- janina: Saying UI is out of scope doesn't eliminate a11y considerations: APIs may, as said, be within the scope of our re/ and purview.
- 14:16:23 [Roy]
- action: janina to review Web Payments Charter by next week
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- Created -> action #323 https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/323
- 14:17:17 [Roy]
- subtopic: Media and Entertainment Interest Group rechartering
- 14:17:18 [Roy]
- - charter: https://w3c.github.io/media-and-entertainment/charters/charter-2023.html
- 14:17:32 [Fredrik]
- Roy: And another one: Media Interest Group.
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- Roy: They mention a lot about a11y.
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- Roy: Section 4 is of particular interest.
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- janina: Things that are bubbling up? Can we have subchapters? Can we markup chapter headings? And so forth...
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- janina: We might want it for other reasons, too.
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- q?
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- q+
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- janina: I think we may hwant to have a liaison with the Media Interest Group.
- 14:20:52 [Fredrik]
- janina: The MAUR ist 8 years old,but really ten. So that needs a little look or two.
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- q-
- 14:21:18 [Roy]
- action: janina to review Media and Entertainment Interest Group rechartering
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- Created -> action #324 https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/324
- 14:21:26 [Fredrik]
- janina: We need to toch base with them, since we have interesting things to discuss.
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- janina: We ahven't paid enough attention to the music community group. That needs to be rectified. We should get back to them. We'll do what we can.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:30:20 [Roy]
- subtopic: Math Working Group Charter
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- - charter: https://mathml-refresh.github.io/charter-drafts/math-2023.html
- 14:30:39 [Fredrik]
- zakim, take up item 3
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- agendum 3 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:30:49 [Roy]
- subtopic: Math Working Group Charter
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- - charter: https://mathml-refresh.github.io/charter-drafts/math-2023.html
- 14:30:56 [Fredrik]
- Roy: Math Workign Group Charter!
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- janina: I think we can sign off on this - the right people are there.
- 14:31:34 [Fredrik]
- janina: We#ll help them out - they know whta they're about.
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- Roy: Right. Let's sign off on that.
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- zakim, take up item 4
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- agendum 4 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:32:29 [Roy]
- subtopic: Scalable Video Coding (SVC) Extension for WebRTC
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- - issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/57
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- - tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Scalable_Video_Coding_(SVC)_Extension_for_WebRTC
- 14:32:32 [Fredrik]
- Roy: There are two.
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- Roy: An extension for WebRTC.
- 14:34:35 [janina]
- q?
- 14:35:01 [Fredrik]
- matatk: I'd like to have a go at it and know what they're doing. The doc itself has some issues of contrast.
- 14:37:36 [Roy]
- subtopic: Compute Pressure API
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- - issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/53
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- - tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Compute_Pressure_Level_1
- 14:37:39 [Fredrik]
- Roy: The WebRTC document should be finished in mid-May. The want to go to CR sometime soon.
- 14:38:36 [Fredrik]
- Roy: Computer Pressure API pinged us.
- 14:38:57 [Roy]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Compute_Pressure_Level_1
- 14:39:01 [janina]
- q?
- 14:40:38 [Roy]
- https://www.w3.org/2023/01/04-apa-minutes.html#t11
- 14:40:46 [Fredrik]
- Roy: That's "compute pressure", so CPU load.
- 14:41:04 [Fredrik]
- matatk: Let#s park it: I'll have a look, but I think we can sign off on it.
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- matatk: They need a pingback this week.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
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- Roy: Fro next week.
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 5 closed
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- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:43:09 [Zakim]
- 6. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from janina]
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- zakim, open next item
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- agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:43:15 [Roy]
- subtopic: Dubbing and Audio description Profiles of TTML2
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- - tracker: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Dubbing_and_Audio_description_Profiles_of_TTML2
- 14:43:16 [Roy]
- - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/dapt/
- 14:43:20 [Fredrik]
- Roy: One!
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- Roy: Dubbing and Audio Description Workflows Level 2.
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- janina: I could look at this.
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- action: janina to review Dubbing and Audio description Profiles of TTML2
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- Created -> action #325 https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/325
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 7 was just opened, Fredrik
- 14:45:45 [PaulG]
- https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/8506
- 14:45:46 [Fredrik]
- PaulG: Some things.
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- PaulG: Changes to the appearance values.
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- PaulG: The slider when you gave it appearance verti al it applied a native orientation to the a11y tree.
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- PaulG: *Thsi applies to Chromium.(
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- q?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
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- janina: Anyone?
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- janina: No one.
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 8 closed
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- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 9. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from janina]
- 14:47:53 [Fredrik]
- zakim, open next item
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- agendum 9 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
- 14:48:25 [Fredrik]
- janina: Loads of interesting stuff.
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- subtopic: CFC FAST
- 14:51:27 [Fredrik]
- janina: We think we want to have a CFC on the FAST TF under APA.
- 14:53:05 [Fredrik]
- janina: Possibly we might do the CFC before next week's meeting or thereafter.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
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- janina: I hear crickets.
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 10 closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 11. be done [from janina]
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- zakim, open next item
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- agendum 11 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
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- janina: We did it in time!
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been mike_beganyi, matatk, Fredrik, janina, Roy, PaulG, Alisa_Smith
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/26-apa-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, Fredrik; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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- janina has changed the topic to: APA Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 3 May at 1400Z
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