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14:56:17 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Presentation Task Force Teleconference
14:56:17 <trackbot> Date: 17 April 2023
14:56:25 <PaulG> zakim, agenda?
14:56:26 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
14:56:35 <PaulG> Agenda+ Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements Agenda+ AT Letter Agenda+ Action Items Agenda+ Github Issues and examples Agenda+ Other Business
14:56:49 <PaulG> zakim, clear agenda
14:56:50 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:57:02 <PaulG> Agenda+ Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements
14:57:08 <PaulG> Agenda+ AT Letter
14:57:23 <PaulG> Agenda+ Action Items
14:57:23 <PaulG> Agenda+ Github Issues and examples
14:57:29 <PaulG> Agenda+ Other Business
14:58:58 <PaulG> present+
15:00:11 <Sarah_Wood> present+
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15:02:02 <matatk> present+
15:02:04 <matatk> agenda?
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15:06:19 <PaulG> matatk: the metaverse standards forum has been gathered and w3c has partnered on several areas including accessibility
15:06:48 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 1
15:06:48 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
15:06:56 <PaulG> zakim, close item 1
15:06:56 <Zakim> agendum 1, Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements, closed
15:06:57 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:06:57 <Zakim> 2. AT Letter [from PaulG]
15:06:58 <PaulG> zakim, take up 2
15:06:58 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up 2', PaulG
15:07:03 <matatk> ^ more info on metaverse-related standards: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2023Apr/0010.html
15:07:04 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 2
15:07:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- AT Letter -- taken up [from PaulG]
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15:09:19 <PaulG> Sarah_Wood: a google doc has been started with Mark and will be shared with others privately to whomever would like to help coordinate contact with AT vendors
15:09:35 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/pronunciation-tf/participants
15:09:49 <PaulG> (private invite will be shared, the doc will not be sent to the list for the privacy of the AT vendors)
15:10:23 <PaulG> Dee: what about other people like John Foliot?
15:10:48 <PaulG> matatk: I'm not sure he's active in the group anymore. Keep it to the people on this call and any regulars who want access.
15:11:43 <PaulG> matatk: a few questions about our process...
15:12:14 <PaulG> ...we're using direct personal contacts to get a candid opinion about what we should do (general approach)
15:12:31 <PaulG> ...then use all the official channels to move the spec forward
15:12:47 <PaulG> ...unless we asked, we can't use their responses publicly.
15:13:16 <PaulG> ...Leadership doesn't have a problem with this as long as we aren't considering this a formal feedback process.
15:13:41 <PaulG> ...But, we need to make sure we're getting the broadest range of feedback possible.
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15:17:18 <PaulG> matatk: ...We can ask people if we can use their feedback publicly. But if it's particularly candid, they may not want to. And eventually, we'll go through the standard process. So, having access to that private doc will help leadership understand the range of folks asked.
15:18:34 <PaulG> matatk: Janina, Roy, and I agreed we can ask all the people we know. But they also suggested we could post a public version of the letter to some lists like the WAI mailing list.
15:19:11 <PaulG> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki/Re:-AT-Vendors
15:20:31 <PaulG> matatk: we can always ask after the fact if we can use their responses but it's probably not likely.
15:22:49 <PaulG> matatk: I'm not sure if that public email in the letter is actually something people can post to. I'll ask.
15:24:08 <PaulG> maybe we could use a google form for public feedback
15:24:21 <PaulG> matatk: they could open an issue on github
15:24:30 <PaulG> but that couldn't be anonymous
15:24:44 <PaulG> matatk: maybe there's a chairs address they could sent it to
15:27:19 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:27:19 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Action Items -- taken up [from PaulG]
15:27:37 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
15:27:37 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
15:27:38 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:27:38 <Zakim> 4. Github Issues and examples [from PaulG]
15:27:49 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 4
15:27:49 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Github Issues and examples -- taken up [from PaulG]
15:28:04 <PaulG> no new issues/comments in github
15:28:07 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
15:28:07 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
15:28:08 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:28:08 <Zakim> 5. Other Business [from PaulG]
15:28:11 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 5
15:28:11 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Other Business -- taken up [from PaulG]
15:29:32 <PaulG> matatk: May 7 is the deadline to add any other groups to the TPAC agenda. We've already received the request to meet about CSS Speech.
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15:30:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/17-pronunciation-minutes.html PaulG
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