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13:59:12 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF
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14:14:38 <kaz> q+
14:14:59 <kaz> ack k
14:16:47 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Luca_Barbato
14:17:40 <cris_> topic: minutes review
14:17:46 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#April_12.2C_2023
14:17:50 <kaz> scribenick: cris_
14:17:53 <cris_> ege: very long call last week
14:18:07 <kaz> i|very|-> https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-td-minutes.html Apr-5|
14:18:28 <cris_> ... we closed a bunch of issues
14:18:32 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:18:40 <cris_> ... and discussed about prifixes of binding ontologies
14:18:51 <cris_> ... probably a next charter item
14:19:23 <cris_> ... interaction vocabularies -> protocol vocabularies
14:19:32 <Ege> interaction vocabularies -> Instruction on Protocol Vocabularies
14:20:37 <cris_> ege: subtopic pr 276 should be fixed
14:20:41 <kaz> q+
14:20:42 <cris_> ... it should be topic
14:21:57 <cris_> ... we worked on TD too and merge PRs
14:22:23 <cris_> ... after it we went through TD issues that were marked as proposed closing
14:23:17 <cris_> ... there are some still left
14:23:37 <kaz> ack k
14:23:44 <cris_> ege: minutes looks good?
14:24:01 <cris_> ege: ok minutes approved
14:24:36 <cris_> topic: next week meeting
14:24:48 <cris_> ege: next meeting is canceled
14:25:02 <cris_> topic: TPAC topics
14:25:09 <cris_> ege: we have a wiki
14:25:38 <cris_> ... there is a section were we can list our discussion topics
14:25:54 <kaz> q+
14:26:02 <cris_> ... one of the big topics is JSON parsability together with JSON-LD.
14:26:09 <cris_> ... I would add it
14:26:23 <cris_> ... we will talk also with jsonld guys as well
14:26:44 <kaz> ack k
14:26:45 <cris_> kaz: the main question can we wait until TPAC?
14:27:00 <cris_> ... or we should discuss this theme before TPAC?
14:27:04 <cris_> ege: I think we can
14:27:12 <cris_> ... there is also vacation time in between
14:27:23 <cris_> ... of course we could it earlier but there is no pressure
14:27:30 <cris_> ... do people see other topics?
14:27:33 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:27:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:27:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:28:02 <kaz> chair: Ege
14:28:41 <cris_> cris: canonalization and signature ?
14:28:50 <cris_> ege: right adding it
14:29:44 <cris_> cris: what about Thing Description linting?
14:29:58 <cris_> ege: mmm adding it, maybe needs discussion
14:30:12 <cris_> ... also it would be good to talk about planned features
14:30:30 <cris_> ... we can come back in the next weeks
14:30:50 <cris_> ... anyhow everybody can edit the wiki, just make sure you pre-fix your name
14:31:02 <cris_> ... or maybe you can open an issue
14:31:36 <cris_> topic: Binding Templates
14:31:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:31:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:31:55 <cris_> ege: we started the review process to be published as note
14:32:05 <cris_> ... if you note anything open an issue
14:32:16 <cris_> topic: PRs
14:32:25 <cris_> subtopic: PR 280
14:32:34 <cris_> ege: adding conformance section as in the coap document
14:32:50 <cris_> ... any objections?
14:32:59 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/280
14:33:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:33:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:34:18 <cris_> ... merged
14:34:18 <cris_> subtopic: PR 161
14:34:18 <cris_> ege: bigger discussion
14:34:25 <cris_> ... it is still a simple change
14:34:41 <cris_> ... we have some cases when we need to add possible parameters to content-types
14:35:32 <cris_> luca: not great, the main problem it is not standard
14:35:50 <cris_> ... you can use special custom content-type
14:36:29 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/280||
14:36:47 <kaz> i|adding conf|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/280 PR 280 - Add conformance section to Modbus binding documentation|
14:40:16 <cris_> cris: I sort agree, but the RFC should say that additional parameters are ignored by consumer, then it should not be that harmful to define our owns.
14:40:45 <kaz> i|bigger d|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/161 PR 161 - Well-know Media Types content paremeters|
14:40:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft miutes
14:40:51 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft miutes', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:42:15 <cris_> https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/octet-stream
14:44:57 <kaz> q+
14:49:17 <kaz> kaz: kind of surprised to see this proposal now
14:49:34 <kaz> ... how to handle binary streaming data is a big question for WoT in general
14:49:46 <kaz> ... probably we need to think about that for Binding Templates as well in the end
14:50:06 <kaz> ... but we should work on some more use cases and collect people's use cases and ideas first
14:51:06 <kaz> ... e.g., Connexus should have some experience about surveillance cam data, etc.
14:51:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/161#issuecomment-1505414510 Ege's comments based on today's discussion
14:51:44 <kaz> subtopic: PR 274
14:51:55 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/274 PR 274 - fix: move sotd sections before the introductions
14:53:51 <kaz> kaz: note that the actual content of the SoTD section is generated by ReSpec
14:54:06 <kaz> ... so this is moving the HTML template for the SoTD section
14:55:14 <Ege> https://deploy-preview-274--wot-binding-templates.netlify.app/
14:55:19 <kaz> (some conflicts there, but fixed)
14:56:11 <kaz> ac k
14:56:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:56:34 <kaz> s/topic: PRs//
14:56:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:56:59 <kaz> i/kind of/scribenick: kaz/
14:57:13 <kaz> subtopic: PR 282
14:57:33 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/282 PR 282 - Initial work for vocabulary creation guide
14:58:20 <kaz> kaz: given we have only 4 people here, would suggest we discuss this next time
14:58:37 <kaz> topic: Thing Description
14:58:42 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1795
14:59:00 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1795 PR 1795 - April 2023 Implementation Report Updates
14:59:14 <kaz> ek: would merge this since it's just updating the Implementation Report
14:59:36 <kaz> merged
15:00:07 <kaz> topic: AOB
15:01:03 <kaz> subtopic: Platform Bindings?
15:01:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/issues/226 wot-binding-templates Issue 226 - Changing the Platform Bindings to Combination Bindings
15:01:37 <kaz> ek: we've already started review for the next publication
15:01:48 <kaz> ... so wondering how to deal with this proposed name change
15:02:00 <kaz> q+
15:02:13 <kaz> ack k
15:02:32 <kaz> kaz: think we should think about this kind of refactoring during the next Charter period
15:02:38 <kaz> ... we don't need to rush
15:02:40 <kaz> ek: ok
15:03:11 <kaz> kaz: maybe you can add some specific label to identify it
15:03:13 <kaz> ek: ok
15:03:21 <kaz> ... let's put "refactoring" label then
15:03:24 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:03:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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