IRC log of rqtf on 2023-03-29
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 29 March 2023
- 12:15:00 [jasonjgw]
- chair: jasonjgw
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- present+
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- scribe+
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- agenda+ Media synchronization use cases and user needs.
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- agenda+ Miscelaneous updates and topics.
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- present+
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- present+
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- following on IRC< hoping to join call shortly
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Media synchronization use cases and user needs. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:03:47 [SteveNoble]
- scribe: SteveNoble
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- present+ John_Paton
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- jasonjgw: Just a placeholder for the wiki at the moment
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- jasonjgw: Any general comments on expanding media synchronization to new forms such as transcript synchronization
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- agenda?
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- janina: Will look at old meeting notes from a meeting where this was discussed several years ago
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- jasonjgw: Currently, transcripts are provided as separate files
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- jasonjgw: But not sure how well video APIs can provide navigation to various points in the video
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- janina: Tools exist to fix post caption files for better synchronization, so that is a model
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- janina: In musical works, synchronization of text may be possible with MusicXML
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- jasonjgw: Whether we want textual content to go into media files so that it is embedded and does not have to be a separate file
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- jasonjgw: Level of synchronization (word or sentence level) would be something to look at
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- Raja: In transcripts, timestamps are needed. There is more support now in tools that provide synchronization.
- 13:13:29 [SteveNoble]
- Raja: AI is getting better at figuring this out.
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- Raja: But most synchronization is at the sentence level, not the word level.
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- Raja: There are differences in what is supported in live streaming vs. pre-recorded.
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- janina: What differeneces do you see in transcripts? We were hoping that transcripts would include on-screen information and not just spoken dialogue?
- 13:17:57 [SteveNoble]
- Raja: There has been a request for this sort of information, but it seems to mostly come over in text audio descriptions and not in captions.
- 13:18:49 [SteveNoble]
- Raja: There is a best practice for both captions and audio descriptions, and those can be considered.
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- Janina: We were thinking that for the deaf-blind population, the synchronization with the video was not as important.
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- Raja: More video players are starting to include the ability to search for words.
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- jasonjgw: Finding where certain words appear and moving to that point would be useful to some people.
- 13:22:14 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Seems like we need to do some more investigating on what is currently possible and what so far doesn't exist.
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- Lionel: In YouTube, timed transcript playing is already available
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- Lionel: In streaming contexts, the streaming rate can vary depending upon how much video quality is required.
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- Raja: There are some opensource players that provide some of these capabilities, but am unsure of this is any of the specifications.
- 13:26:51 [SteveNoble]
- janina: The standards do not seem to currently include these capabilities, be we need more exploration
- 13:27:21 [SteveNoble]
- Raja: Happy to help out on tracking these details down
- 13:28:06 [SteveNoble]
- Raja: You are referring to the link you sent on teh mailing list?
- 13:28:39 [jasonjgw]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Miscelaneous updates and topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:28:44 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Yes...it is just a placeholder right now. We can continue this discussion next week
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- present+
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- subtopic: Ax-Con Presentation
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- Jutta Treviranus presentation -> https://www.deque.com/axe-con/sessions/preparing-accessibility-for-the-future-and-the-present/
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- present+ Raja
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- janina: Suggest the presentation is something we consider for mining on possible topics
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- present+ Lionel_Wolberger
- 13:32:25 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: She also had a good presentation during the Future of Interface conference
- 13:33:45 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Also some good presentations on other topics worth our focus
- 13:34:15 [janina]
- subtopic: XR
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- jasonjgw: Still negotiating on a meeting time
- 13:34:45 [janina]
- subtopic: CTAUR
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- janina: Waiting on a response from COGA
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- janina: Not sure as to what format these comments will come in
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- janina: May have an update next week after COGA meets
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- jasonjgw: Will still have to peel out comments into GitHub issues
- 13:38:51 [SteveNoble]
- scott_h: Thanks for continuing to work through this!
- 13:39:11 [janina]
- subtopic: WoT
- 13:39:37 [SteveNoble]
- janina: APA will be discussing this.
- 13:40:47 [SteveNoble]
- janina: Issues in WoT GitHub repository have been filed...looking at middleware, or "provisioning" as they are calling it
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- jasonjgw: Important for us to keep following this
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- jasonjgw: Other comments??
- 13:43:21 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Our first agendum will come back next week
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, SteveNoble, scott_h, John_Paton, janina, Raja, Lionel_Wolberger
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