12:14:49 RRSAgent has joined #rqtf 12:14:53 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/03/29-rqtf-irc 12:14:53 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:14:54 Zakim has joined #rqtf 12:14:54 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 12:14:54 Date: 29 March 2023 12:15:00 chair: jasonjgw 12:15:03 present+ 12:15:05 scribe+ 12:15:38 agenda+ Media synchronization use cases and user needs. 12:15:38 agenda+ Miscelaneous updates and topics. 12:57:33 scott_h has joined #rqtf 12:58:58 JPaton has joined #rqtf 13:00:21 SteveNoble has joined #rqtf 13:00:28 present+ 13:00:51 present+ 13:01:32 following on IRC< hoping to join call shortly 13:02:38 Roy has joined #rqtf 13:03:32 zakim, next item 13:03:32 agendum 1 -- Media synchronization use cases and user needs. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:03:47 scribe: SteveNoble 13:04:07 present+ John_Paton 13:04:13 jasonjgw: Just a placeholder for the wiki at the moment 13:05:04 jasonjgw: Any general comments on expanding media synchronization to new forms such as transcript synchronization 13:05:37 Lionel_Wolberger has joined #RQTF 13:05:41 agenda? 13:05:53 janina: Will look at old meeting notes from a meeting where this was discussed several years ago 13:06:44 jasonjgw: Currently, transcripts are provided as separate files 13:07:35 jasonjgw: But not sure how well video APIs can provide navigation to various points in the video 13:09:09 janina: Tools exist to fix post caption files for better synchronization, so that is a model 13:09:47 janina: In musical works, synchronization of text may be possible with MusicXML 13:10:49 jasonjgw: Whether we want textual content to go into media files so that it is embedded and does not have to be a separate file 13:11:51 jasonjgw: Level of synchronization (word or sentence level) would be something to look at 13:12:58 Raja: In transcripts, timestamps are needed. There is more support now in tools that provide synchronization. 13:13:29 Raja: AI is getting better at figuring this out. 13:14:00 Raja: But most synchronization is at the sentence level, not the word level. 13:15:28 Raja: There are differences in what is supported in live streaming vs. pre-recorded. 13:17:03 janina: What differeneces do you see in transcripts? We were hoping that transcripts would include on-screen information and not just spoken dialogue? 13:17:57 Raja: There has been a request for this sort of information, but it seems to mostly come over in text audio descriptions and not in captions. 13:18:49 Raja: There is a best practice for both captions and audio descriptions, and those can be considered. 13:19:45 Janina: We were thinking that for the deaf-blind population, the synchronization with the video was not as important. 13:20:42 Raja: More video players are starting to include the ability to search for words. 13:21:30 jasonjgw: Finding where certain words appear and moving to that point would be useful to some people. 13:22:14 jasonjgw: Seems like we need to do some more investigating on what is currently possible and what so far doesn't exist. 13:23:29 Lionel: In YouTube, timed transcript playing is already available 13:24:51 Lionel: In streaming contexts, the streaming rate can vary depending upon how much video quality is required. 13:26:01 Raja: There are some opensource players that provide some of these capabilities, but am unsure of this is any of the specifications. 13:26:51 janina: The standards do not seem to currently include these capabilities, be we need more exploration 13:27:21 Raja: Happy to help out on tracking these details down 13:28:06 Raja: You are referring to the link you sent on teh mailing list? 13:28:39 zakim, next item 13:28:39 agendum 2 -- Miscelaneous updates and topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:28:44 jasonjgw: Yes...it is just a placeholder right now. We can continue this discussion next week 13:29:10 janina has joined #rqtf 13:29:16 present+ 13:29:24 subtopic: Ax-Con Presentation 13:29:26 Jutta Treviranus presentation -> https://www.deque.com/axe-con/sessions/preparing-accessibility-for-the-future-and-the-present/ 13:30:17 present+ Raja 13:31:27 janina: Suggest the presentation is something we consider for mining on possible topics 13:31:30 present+ Lionel_Wolberger 13:32:25 jasonjgw: She also had a good presentation during the Future of Interface conference 13:33:45 jasonjgw: Also some good presentations on other topics worth our focus 13:34:15 subtopic: XR 13:34:35 jasonjgw: Still negotiating on a meeting time 13:34:45 subtopic: CTAUR 13:35:29 janina: Waiting on a response from COGA 13:36:19 janina: Not sure as to what format these comments will come in 13:36:52 janina: May have an update next week after COGA meets 13:37:35 jasonjgw: Will still have to peel out comments into GitHub issues 13:38:51 scott_h: Thanks for continuing to work through this! 13:39:11 subtopic: WoT 13:39:37 janina: APA will be discussing this. 13:40:47 janina: Issues in WoT GitHub repository have been filed...looking at middleware, or "provisioning" as they are calling it 13:42:01 jasonjgw: Important for us to keep following this 13:42:51 jasonjgw: Other comments?? 13:43:21 jasonjgw: Our first agendum will come back next week 13:43:23 zakim, bye 13:43:23 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, SteveNoble, scott_h, John_Paton, janina, Raja, Lionel_Wolberger 13:43:23 Zakim has left #rqtf 13:43:34 rrsagent, make minutes 13:43:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/29-rqtf-minutes.html jasonjgw 13:52:59 janina has left #rqtf