IRC log of wcag-act on 2023-03-23
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/03/23-wcag-act-irc
- 13:58:39 [Zakim]
- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- Meeting: Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference
- 13:59:02 [kathy]
- agenda+ ACT Standup
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- agenda+ Better define how rules related to page states (30 min)
- 13:59:21 [kathy]
- agenda+ Meta refresh has no refresh delay (no exception)
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- agenda+ Element with role has required states and properties
- 13:59:34 [Helen]
- present+
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- agenda+ Link in context is descriptive
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- scribe: Todd
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- scribe: ToddL
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- 0
- 14:06:32 [thbrunet]
- present+
- 14:06:35 [kathy]
- 0
- 14:06:44 [ToddL]
- 0 - no preference. Time here does not change in Arizona.
- 14:07:30 [Wilco]
- +1
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- RESOLUTION: Going forward ACT TF switches times with US summer / winter time instead of EU
- 14:08:21 [ToddL]
- Wilco: Using US summer/winter time for meeting times instead of EU time
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 1 -- ACT Standup -- taken up [from kathy]
- 14:09:25 [ToddL]
- Wilco: Everything is fine, but oops.
- 14:09:41 [ToddL]
- Wilco: movement on 4.1.1
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- catherine: worked on surveys and call for review
- 14:10:22 [ToddL]
- thbrunet: surveys, hoping to get to get to rest
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- Helen: surveys, not much other to report
- 14:12:17 [ToddL]
- kathy: more on the label in name issue. CSUN, met Daniel
- 14:12:52 [ToddL]
- trevor: got through rule reviews, surveys, edited site stuff, discuss w/JYM on rules
- 14:14:09 [ToddL]
- Wilco: potentially a new implementor coming on board
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 2 -- Better define how rules related to page states (30 min) -- taken up [from kathy]
- 14:15:56 [ToddL]
- trevor: Discussion on Applicability of Stateful Rules https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1953
- 14:42:12 [ToddL]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 3 -- Meta refresh has no refresh delay (no exception) -- taken up [from kathy]
- 14:42:58 [ToddL]
- Wilco: Meta refresh, updated sheet slightly it now has issues column that links to open issues
- 14:42:58 [trevor]
- trevor: Introduces possible new section called preparatory steps. Has mutliple steps each with their own applicability and action
- 14:43:21 [trevor]
- tom: Concerns about how automatable it may be. Should be be using standard authoring practices as guideline for interaction schemes to test
- 14:44:10 [ToddL]
- thbrunet: test cases aren't generated correctly.
- 14:44:16 [trevor]
- wilco: Concern that using steps is too prescriptive, can we shift to past tense and have it as conditions
- 14:44:34 [trevor]
- trevor: Can do, still some concerns if there are multiple "states" or complex conditions
- 14:45:01 [trevor]
- wilco: We can also use specific events that we care about, once again relevant to the standard authoring practices
- 14:45:08 [trevor]
- trevor: will make those changes and bring back for next time
- 14:45:17 [ToddL]
- Wilco: will need to fix test cases not getting put into the template correctly
- 14:46:12 [ToddL]
- Wilco: Failed Example 1 refreshes blank page every 30 seconds
- 14:46:25 [ToddL]
- kathy: don't know what the failure is if it is just a blank page
- 14:46:40 [ToddL]
- +1
- 14:48:12 [ToddL]
- thbrunet: seems confusing
- 14:48:42 [ToddL]
- kathy: what would AT announce if there were content?
- 14:49:02 [ToddL]
- Helen: in favor of KISS
- 14:49:14 [ToddL]
- Wilco: no change then
- 14:50:07 [ToddL]
- Wilco: 2.2.1 Timing Adjustable not showing up correctly. Fix secondary requirements UI bug
- 14:51:56 [ToddL]
- Wilco: Do we like the test cases with the head element.
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- Helen: We want the head to stay and the element that is failing there as well.
- 14:52:51 [ToddL]
- Wilco: Do we need to change the code?
- 14:53:00 [ToddL]
- Wilco: Keeping examples as they are
- 14:53:40 [Wilco]
- Because a refresh with a timing of 0 is effectively a redirect, it is exempt from this rule. Since refreshing the same page with a time of 0 can cause rapid screen flashes it is strongly recommended to avoid this.
- 14:55:00 [ToddL]
- Wilco: two changes to be made and will be liason.
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- RRSAgent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/23-wcag-act-minutes.html ToddL