13:10:21 RRSAgent has joined #rqtf 13:10:25 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/03/01-rqtf-irc 13:10:25 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:10:26 Zakim has joined #rqtf 13:10:26 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 13:10:26 Date: 01 March 2023 13:10:35 present+ 13:10:38 chair: jasonjgw 13:10:41 scribe+ 13:10:57 zakim, clear agenda 13:10:57 agenda cleared 13:11:12 agenda+ Accessibility and personal data assistants. 13:11:12 agenda+ Accessibility of the Web of Things. 13:11:12 agenda+ CAPTCHA and authentication: update, coordination. 13:11:12 agenda+ Artificial intelligence and people with disabilities - opportunities for further work. 13:11:16 agenda+ Task Force publications and miscellaneous topics. 13:58:36 janina has joined #rqtf 13:58:39 SteveNoble has joined #rqtf 13:58:41 present+ 13:58:49 present+ 13:59:29 JPaton has joined #rqtf 14:00:40 scribe: SteveNoble 14:00:53 zakim, next item 14:00:53 agendum 1 -- Accessibility and personal data assistants. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 14:01:03 scott_h has joined #rqtf 14:01:22 Roy has joined #rqtf 14:01:36 present+ 14:01:57 present+ 14:03:10 janina: APA will also be discussing this in their upcoming meeting, we may know more after that discussion 14:04:46 zakim, next item 14:04:46 agendum 2 -- Accessibility of the Web of Things. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 14:04:46 janina: It is not just operation of these devices, but also the configuration and rebooting of such devices 14:05:48 jasonjgw: May need to bring back next week after the APA meeting 14:06:42 janina: Matter and Thread are the developing specs to look at 14:08:07 raja: One important consideration is multimodal accessibility 14:08:56 raja: Sometimes these devices are audio only of visual only interaction modes 14:10:11 raja: For example, the Astro robot has different inputs and output modes, but they only accept one way at a time 14:10:35 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2023Jan/0000.html 14:11:58 janina: Matter and Thread do not currently consider multimodal interactions, which is something we need to address 14:13:20 jasonjgw: Remote operation will be a key component for accessibility 14:14:22 raja: One problem is these devices have issues with trusting a remote connection and how to authenticate the remote action 14:15:03 jasonjgw: These are interesting problems 14:16:04 raja: Wondering about the difference between the Web of Things spec and connection of Alexa and robots and such 14:17:26 jason: Not clear if the apps follow specific guidelines other than perhaps WCAG 14:19:44 janina: The usual problem is that the intent is to support interoperability, but vendors do not necessarily want to support competitors platforms 14:21:44 jasonjgw: Noticed an article last week about Microsoft researchers using natural language engines to program robots 14:23:36 raja: Interoperability between devices in different ecosystems is what we want to support 14:24:08 janina: The problem of middleware causing the accessibility block 14:25:07 janina: Matter is supposed to solve these issues 14:27:14 jasonjgw: Other thoughts for now? 14:27:40 zakim, next item 14:27:40 agendum 3 -- CAPTCHA and authentication: update, coordination. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 14:28:13 jasonjgw: Just coordination thoughts... 14:28:37 raja: Have to leave -- sorry 14:29:13 jasonjgw: Thanks to Scott for recent email 14:30:34 scott_h: In terms of overarching concepts, this new material may be useful 14:31:34 janina: We were UpToDate when we published in 2019 14:32:44 janina: New developments such as FIDO and CloudFare have changes the landscape somewhat since then 14:34:19 jasonjgw: Possession of a certain hardware (like a phone) as well as a pin number/password for multifactor authentication is the norm now 14:35:15 janina: Suggest returning to this after CSUN 14:36:29 zakim, next item 14:36:29 agendum 4 -- Artificial intelligence and people with disabilities - opportunities for further work. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 14:37:35 jasonjgw: Early stage research is now in process 14:39:39 janina: For example, Reader mode in Microsoft Edge is implementing some type of machine learning to improve reading layout 14:41:39 scott_h: Have personally found some of these new features in Edge very useful 14:43:10 jasonjgw: Another example is the reader mode will remove clutter from the view and focus on the text being read 14:45:14 janina: Problem is the heuristics may reduce the availability of something like adds that a user may want to read 14:48:23 janina: The interweaving of a semantic tagging approach which can inform the models is a possible direction 14:49:52 jasonjgw: Will be interesting to see how these develop with future training as users interact and teach the machine learning tools 14:51:47 jasonjgw: These new considerations of how to provide inferences to machine learning models is very interesting 14:51:57 zakim, next item 14:51:57 agendum 5 -- Task Force publications and miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 14:52:57 jasonjgw: Still waiting on more comments on Collaboration Tools 14:54:06 scott_h: Question about the upcoming 2.2 WCAG -- especially removing of pausing 14:54:58 jasonjgw: Probably too late to deal with that one 14:55:39 janina has left #rqtf 14:55:53 zakim, bye 14:55:54 Zakim has left #rqtf 14:55:54 leaving. 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