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15:00:16 <kaz> meeting: 4th WoT WG Charter Meeting - Day 1
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15:00:38 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda_Session_4.2C_Day_1_-_Feb_27
15:00:42 <kaz> chair: McCool
15:00:53 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool
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15:03:26 <kaz> present+ Andrea_Cimmino, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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15:08:56 <kaz> present+ Christian_Glomb, Jan_Romann, Luca_Barbato, Michael_Koster
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15:09:31 <acimmino_> Topic: PR #64
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15:09:32 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/64 : add server side API
15:09:38 <kaz> scribenick: acimmino
15:09:40 <kaz> scribenick: acimmino_
15:09:50 <Ege> q+
15:10:00 <Ege> q-
15:10:29 <McCool_> q?
15:10:45 <acimmino_> no objections are presented, therefore, PR is merged
15:10:56 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/64 : add server side API|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/64 PR 64 - Remove details|
15:11:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:11:43 <acimmino_> Next topic: PR #42 - Mission Satement
15:11:46 <McCool_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/42
15:11:48 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/42 : TF-DI scope doc
15:12:08 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/42 : TF-DI scope doc||
15:12:23 <Ege> q+
15:12:48 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/42|->  https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/42 PR 42 - Mission Statement Revise|
15:13:22 <acimmino_> mccool: this PR gets rid of several things we needed to remove
15:14:03 <kaz> q+
15:14:07 <acimmino_> this PR deal with different issues that were pointed out
15:14:28 <kaz> ack e
15:17:00 <acimmino_> kaz: it would be nicer if we could describe the relationship between the working and the interest group
15:17:14 <Ege> q+
15:17:22 <acimmino_> mccool: let's merge it as it is, and face this later
15:18:52 <acimmino_> mccool: I do not want to review the text without the supervision of some experts, but it seems ok
15:18:54 <kaz> ack k
15:19:18 <acimmino_> ege: it would be nice to paint the CG colaboration
15:19:44 <acimmino_> mccool: I think these should be under collaboration section, but for now, let's merge it and do it later
15:19:45 <cris_> agree for moving it out
15:19:54 <acimmino_> no objections are presented, therefore, the PR is merged
15:20:06 <acimmino_> mccool: I will create an issue for moving this text
15:21:14 <kaz> s/the working and the interest group/the WG and the other related groups like WoT IG (and CG), not here within the mission but later within the scope or the collaboration./
15:21:59 <acimmino_> Next Topic: PR #40
15:22:00 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/40 : Update led_f.jsonld
15:22:56 <kaz> s/collaboration./collaboration. My second comment is that it would be better to say "These specifications should complement and enhance the use of the other related standards." rather than "These building blocks should complement and enhance the use of existing standards."/
15:22:56 <acimmino_> mccool: I review it and I'm ok with the text
15:23:33 <Ege> q+
15:23:34 <acimmino_> the only comment is under the Web of Things (WoT) Binding templates
15:23:52 <acimmino_> the sentence "this document specifies the policy", I suggest some wording
15:23:58 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/40 : Update led_f.jsonld|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/40 PR 40 - Simplify the binding mechanism|
15:24:04 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:25:19 <Ege> https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#reg-def
15:25:51 <kaz> q+
15:26:22 <kaz> ack e
15:26:25 <acimmino_> ege: in order to use a registry the policy does need to be included in the document
15:26:46 <acimmino_> mccool: we do not predeclare when we use a registry right?
15:26:50 <acimmino_> kaz: yes
15:27:31 <McCool_> q?
15:28:37 <acimmino_> mccool: I think the text covers the different options on the registry. My suggestion is to merge the PR, and then, we can decide how to do it
15:29:05 <acimmino_> kaz: a quick note should be added about the path, which will be normative and which informative
15:29:18 <acimmino_> mccool: is this blocking the PR?
15:29:25 <acimmino_> kaz: I would like to add it as a note
15:29:40 <kaz> s/a note/a note for this PR itself./
15:29:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:29:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
15:30:12 <kaz> s/Next topic:/topic:/
15:30:26 <kaz> s/Next Topic:/topic:/
15:30:27 <acimmino_> mccool updates the PR with the note
15:30:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:30:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
15:31:08 <kaz> q?
15:31:08 <kaz> ack k
15:32:06 <acimmino_> since no objections are presented the PR is merged
15:32:44 <acimmino_> Next Topic: PR # 56
15:33:53 <kaz> s/Next Topic:/topic:/
15:33:59 <acimmino_> mccool: anybody objects to merge this PR about WoT Profiles?
15:34:28 <kaz> i|anybody|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/56 PR 56 - Profile deliverables|
15:34:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:34:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
15:36:02 <acimmino_> since no objections are presented PR is merged
15:36:35 <acimmino_> Next topic: PR #55
15:36:36 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/55 : @id/@vocab issue
15:36:52 <acimmino_> the PR is about consolidating work items
15:37:31 <Ege> q+
15:37:37 <acimmino_> mccool: the PR is grouping them into a few categories. I think these categories can go up
15:38:02 <kaz> s/Next topic:/topic:/
15:38:29 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/55 : @id/@vocab issue|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/55 PR 55 - Reorganize and consolidate work items|
15:38:59 <acimmino_> ege: what is the detail of level to something be a working item?
15:39:27 <kaz> q+
15:39:28 <kaz> ack e
15:40:22 <acimmino_> mccool: maybe we could delete the bullet items and replace them with the groups
15:41:07 <acimmino_> ...we need to unify everything under the same part of the document
15:47:29 <acimmino_> kaz: if we work on yet another iteration we can merge this, but having two series of points one at the scope section and another later is strange.
15:47:43 <acimmino_> kaz:...we should start with more consolidated directions
15:51:39 <kaz> s/directions/directions like WoT deployment, collaboration with IoT ecosystems, better support for security, etc./
15:51:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:51:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
15:52:34 <acimmino_> mccool organises the elements in the PR by adding a new comment
15:57:12 <kaz> s/kaz:.../.../
15:57:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:57:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
15:59:58 <acimmino_> mccool: comment on these categories and we will work on them
16:01:40 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/55#issuecomment-1446591708 McCool's comments based on today's discussion
16:02:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:02:39 <kaz> [adjourned]
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