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14:44:09 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
14:44:30 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
14:44:35 <matatk> zakim, clear the agenda
14:44:35 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:46:20 <matatk> Chair:  Matthew
14:46:20 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
14:46:20 <matatk> agenda+ APA Rechartering - https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2023/charter.html
14:46:23 <matatk> agenda+ New Charters Review - https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
14:46:26 <matatk> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
14:46:29 <matatk> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
14:46:32 <matatk> agenda+ New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
14:46:34 <matatk> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
14:46:37 <matatk> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
14:46:39 <matatk> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
14:46:42 <matatk> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
14:46:45 <matatk> agenda+ Other Business
14:46:47 <matatk> agenda+ Be done
14:47:38 <matatk> agenda?
14:47:59 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:48:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:48:29 <matatk> regrets+ Gottfried
14:54:41 <matatk> present+
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15:02:55 <PaulG> present+
15:02:55 <Roy> present+
15:03:02 <janina> present+
15:03:08 <Fredrik> present+
15:04:40 <matatk> scribe+ PaulG
15:04:42 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:04:42 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
15:05:03 <PaulG> matatk: I'll post to the list about my presentation
15:06:05 <PaulG> janina: I did a keynote presentation for Australia that will also be available soon
15:06:08 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:06:08 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- APA Rechartering - https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2023/charter.html -- taken up [from matatk]
15:06:37 <PaulG> matatk: this is the version of our charter that's going to go to CFC unless there's an objection among you
15:07:21 <janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2023Feb/0025.html
15:07:25 <PaulG> matatk: FAST, deliverables, and work with external organizations were updated in the document
15:08:18 <PaulG> janina: you have one week from today to comment and vote
15:08:25 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:08:25 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New Charters Review - https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from matatk]
15:08:43 <PaulG> Roy: no new charters
15:08:48 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
15:08:48 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
15:08:49 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:08:49 <Zakim> 4. Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues [from matatk]
15:08:52 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:08:52 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
15:09:03 <Roy> subtopic: Web of Things (WoT) Profile
15:09:03 <Roy> -   issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/54
15:09:03 <Roy> -   tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_of_Things_(WoT)_Profile
15:09:35 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_of_Things_(WoT)_Profile
15:09:36 <PaulG> Roy: this was already reviewed in September 2 years ago
15:09:51 <Roy> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Sep/0029.html
15:10:36 <PaulG> janina: we wanted some expansions in the accessibility considerations but I think we're fine with it
15:10:41 <PaulG> Roy: they want us to finish the review by March
15:10:52 <PaulG> janina: I will check on the comments
15:11:19 <PaulG> matatk: there was also a conversation at TPAC where we gave them some feedbackl
15:12:40 <PaulG> janina: there are new specs (matter and thread) that will come to market soon and help deal with these issues
15:13:19 <PaulG> janina: it's not the API that we will hold up
15:14:12 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:14:12 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker - https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from matatk]
15:14:26 <PaulG> Roy: no new issues this week
15:14:34 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
15:14:34 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
15:14:35 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:14:35 <Zakim> 6. New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from matatk]
15:14:37 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:14:37 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from matatk]
15:14:42 <Roy> subtopic: Web Animations Level 2
15:14:43 <Roy> - tracker: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Animations_Level_2
15:14:43 <Roy> - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/web-animations-2/
15:15:49 <matatk> scribe+ matatk
15:15:55 <matatk> PaulG: This is fairly low level
15:16:23 <matatk> ... Animations stil an issue for accessibility, but should be covered by WCAG.
15:16:35 <matatk> ... No mention of accessibility in this document specifically.
15:17:01 <matatk> ... If we consider WCAG covers everything web, and they're just adding APIs to control something web related, do they need to explicitly reference WCAG?
15:17:09 <matatk> ... This is about providing more options for devs to do existing things.
15:18:35 <PaulG> matatk: sometimes there's a parent doc to look at. But there's already privacy and security considerations in here.
15:19:49 <matatk> PaulG: ACK there are other non-functional requirements. Maybe we could provide some boilerplate text for them to include (around things like WCAG applying)?
15:21:22 <matatk> janina: +1
15:21:55 <matatk> PaulG: Should we give them the WAI Standards/guidelines link?
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15:21:55 <matatk> ... Won't need updating on each iteration of the document.
15:22:20 <PaulG> can we use this for a "pointer" to applicable specs? https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/
15:24:05 <PaulG> matatk: the immediate action is that we don't need to review this but we do need to come up with a suggested text for accessibility considerations
15:24:28 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 4
15:24:28 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Explicit Review Requests - https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
15:24:32 <janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2023Jan/0000.html
15:25:06 <PaulG> janina: this is worth a read and covers parts of matter and thread
15:26:18 <PaulG> matatk: this is long but we should forward it to them and clearly state what we expect as an outcome
15:26:44 <PaulG> janina: should this be elevated to an APA concern and not just comments from an individual?
15:28:04 <PaulG> matatk: we can't cfc this email as is but we  probably can with some small edits
15:28:44 <PaulG> Fredrik: should we just ask Gottfried again?
15:29:27 <PaulG> matatk: yes! Janina and I will do that!
15:29:39 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 7
15:29:39 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
15:30:38 <matatk> PaulG: There are ongoing conversations about color-contrast() (not resolved)
15:31:01 <matatk> ... Propose we come up with the non-functional requirement statement (discussed above) in the next week or so.
15:31:22 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:31:22 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- New on TR - http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from matatk]
15:31:26 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:31:26 <Zakim> agendum 6 was just opened, PaulG
15:31:30 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 8
15:31:30 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from matatk]
15:31:53 <PaulG> matatk: the tracker will be retired by the end of next month
15:32:28 <PaulG> matatk: let us know if you have issues about github being its replacement
15:33:23 <PaulG> matatk: I still haven't seen anything in WCAG 2.2 that concerns me so I think we can sign off on it
15:33:34 <PaulG> Fredrik: +1
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15:54:42 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 9
15:54:42 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from matatk]
15:55:34 <PaulG> RRSAgent, make logs public
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