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15:26:27 <trackbot> Meeting: WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference
15:26:27 <trackbot> Date: 13 February 2023
15:26:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
15:26:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> chair: Lionel_Wolberger
15:26:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> General announcement: TPGi webinar that touches upon Symbols: https://www.tpgi.com/webinar-february-14-at-12pm-et-exploring-new-accessibility-frontiers-with-tpgi-and-the-w3c/
15:26:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up item 1
15:26:52 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Accessibility 4 Children -- taken up [from Sharon]
15:26:53 <janina> Meeting: APA Adapt Task Force Teleconference
15:27:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We're looking forward to reading about the ontology.
15:27:03 <janina> date: 13 feb 2023
15:27:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... We should ping the group.
15:27:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> Minutes from our call with ACCG: https://www.w3.org/2023/01/30-adapt-minutes.html
15:27:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger will contact them.
15:27:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up item 2
15:27:27 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Adapt wiki: Symbol CR and Registry FPWD are not mentioned -- taken up [from Sharon]
15:27:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: Just a reminder on this.
15:27:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: ACK matatk's email about some other APA/TF pages that need updating - will add to APA-plan agenda.
15:27:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Some of these are pages that we need staff to update.
15:27:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up item 3
15:27:50 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Gap Analysis -- taken up [from from matatk via Sharon]
15:27:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We need to be sure to keep ACCG and COGATF lopoed in. We're looking for curb cuts. We want to reassure everyone that their concerns are taken into consideration.
15:28:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: +1
15:28:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We'll carry this as a long-term agendum.
15:28:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We need to've finished this when we go to our next CR, with the next attributes.
15:28:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: There are mainstream implications of COGA's excellent work.
15:28:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: I was thinking of the gap analysis action ...
15:28:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Namely, why not microformats, etc.
15:28:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: Correct, that's where this agendum originates.
15:28:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Apologies, I've stalled on this
15:28:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: I do have Lionel's pointers on this
15:28:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: I could use a refresh pointer ...
15:28:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: You did it usefully and structurally off the top of your head! Impressive.
15:29:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Sure
15:29:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Shares screen, recommends screen grab
15:29:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Includes rhel, auto-complete, microformats, css media queries, dpub (using a rhel type approach),
15:29:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: RDF as well?
15:29:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Yes, but you were explaining an engineering approach of how to do a good gap analysis
15:29:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: It's the process I'm trying to get back to
15:29:31 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
15:29:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/13-adapt-minutes.html matatk
15:29:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: example, using X is too encumbered
15:29:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: I remember now
15:29:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: May be in our minutes ... Maybe December?
15:29:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: Will dig them up
15:29:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: The end point is to dispose of this concern so we never need revisit it.
15:29:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Follow classic engineering gap analysis approach; wirte it up; make a decision; and file it where we can always find it!
15:29:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: thanks for the individual help on this. It will help!
15:30:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: I dug into the former minutes back to December, and cannot find this
15:30:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> s/wirte/write
15:31:14 <matatk> scribe+ matatk
15:31:17 <matatk> agenda?
15:32:20 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:32:20 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, matatk
15:32:23 <matatk> ack matatk
15:32:24 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:32:24 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Symbol Module Implementations -- taken up [from from matatk]
15:33:48 <matatk> zakim, take up item 3
15:33:48 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Gap Analysis -- taken up [from from matatk via Sharon]
15:35:39 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: I found six steps, identified by ChatGPT.
15:35:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Pasting here
15:35:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> [1] Identify the item we are focusing on, Define its function
15:36:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> [2] Identify the item we're comparing it to, and identify its function
15:36:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> [3] Identify the gaps or differences.
15:36:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> [4] For each gap identified, assess impact on a simple
15:36:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> [5] Take a decision and Memorialize it
15:37:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> [6] Make the record of the gap analysis available
15:37:28 <matatk> zakim, take up item 4
15:37:28 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Symbol Module Implementations -- taken up [from from matatk via Sharon]
15:37:34 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
15:37:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/13-adapt-minutes.html matatk
15:38:22 <matatk> janina: Next steps include meeting with Bliss, Global Symbols, and anyone in COGA who's interested, and extend the current published Registry draft.
15:39:01 <matatk> ... We need to define how to internationalize it. Namely, do the symbols change if the BCI index value/descriptive text are looked up in a different language? I expect the answer to be yes.
15:39:15 <matatk> ... Once we have authoritatively answered this, I can reply on issue 203.
15:40:43 <matatk> janina: We need to define:
15:40:47 <matatk> ... 1. How to add more languages.
15:40:52 <matatk> ... 2. How to add more symbol sets.
15:40:58 <matatk> ... 3. How to update existing datum points.
15:40:59 <matatk> q+
15:41:21 <matatk> janina: We decided the first one was i18n. Roy took an action to reach out to the i18n chair.
15:42:51 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: This is an APA item?
15:43:07 <matatk> janina: It was being handled by Michael, but we'd like to move it to Adapt.
15:43:46 <matatk> janina: I don't think it'll impact meeting time much; is a natural vector for recruiting.
15:44:47 <matatk> RESOLUTION: The Adapt TF will take on the development of the AAC Registry.
15:46:09 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/TR/aac-registry/
15:46:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> q+
15:48:42 <matatk> matatk: Regarding 2 above, it will be about mapping to the existing set of concepts; symbol providers will be making their own mappings.
15:48:50 <matatk> janina: +1; we need to define how they do that normatively.
15:48:54 <matatk> ack matatk
15:49:20 <matatk> ack Lionel_Wolberger
15:50:21 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: If I'm another symbol set, I want to be attached to it?
15:50:26 <matatk> janina: You'd be listed in it.
15:50:49 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: I was wondering about this as well as matatk. This is so that the symbols are discoverable? This will be another section of the registry?
15:50:52 <matatk> janina: yes
15:51:49 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: and 3 above is about how to update the concepts?
15:51:50 <matatk> janina: yes
15:52:14 <matatk> janina: People may join us just to work on those things.
15:56:02 <matatk> agenda?
15:56:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Points out potential issues with W3C maintaing a list of pointers to other symbol sets, these will need to be explored
15:56:58 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
15:57:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/13-adapt-minutes.html matatk
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