IRC log of apa on 2023-02-01

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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agenda?
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zakim, clear agenda
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agenda cleared
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Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Weekly Teleconference
14:48:07 [janina]
Chair: Janina
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agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
14:48:07 [janina]
agenda+ Open CfC Elevating Maturity Model to Task Force httpS://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/work-statementtatus
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agenda+ APA Rechartering: Ready for CfC? https://github.com/w3c/apa/blob/charter-2023/charter.html
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agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
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agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
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agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
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agenda+ Other Business
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agenda+ be done
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regrets: Gottfried, Niklas
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present+
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present+
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present+
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present+
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present+
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present+
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/01-apa-minutes.html matatk
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present+
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regrets+ Alisa
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scribe+
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
15:02:57 [mike_beganyi]
janina: standard agendum plus new item. no specific announcements on the agenda
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- Open CfC Elevating Maturity Model to Task Force httpS://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/work-statementtatus -- taken up [from janina]
15:04:01 [Roy]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/work-statement
15:04:15 [Fazio]
I'm here to answer questions
15:04:24 [mike_beganyi]
janina: reminder that the CFC, proposes subgroup of maturity model and making them their own TF. a lot of votes have come in but please get votes in. CFC closes at midnight Boston time Friday
15:05:20 [mike_beganyi]
Fazio: do we want to bring up questions about equity
15:05:38 [mike_beganyi]
janina: discussed last week. thought equity questions were about the maturity model itslef and not the work statement
15:05:46 [mike_beganyi]
Fazio: that's correct, Janina
15:08:57 [mike_beganyi]
janina: if there are ways to scope in something we aren't currently in a11y, or scope in technology that we're not seeing as being web driven, then yes we should revisit the scope
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scribe+ matatk
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- APA Rechartering: Ready for CfC? https://github.com/w3c/apa/blob/charter-2023/charter.html -- taken up [from janina]
15:10:10 [matatk]
janina: Question for the group: are we ready to go for a call for consensus (CfC) on our APA charter?
15:10:37 [matatk]
... Now is the time to scope in anything that you feel is relevant. This charter will govern our work until some time in 2025 (it's a 2-year charter).
15:10:45 [Fredrik]
FYI: I can't get in through the Zoom link. No idea what is going on. It looks as though I'm alone in the meeting. And yes, I'm using "our" link from the APA meeting page...
15:11:50 [matatk]
janina: E.g. if we want to make overlay tech in scope, now is the time to ask for it. Same applies for all of our deliverables.
15:12:16 [matatk]
janina: Questions/comments?
15:12:50 [matatk]
Rendered HTML view of proposed charter: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2023/charter.html
15:13:34 [janina]
DRAFT RESOLUTION: APA avers we are ready for a Call for Consensus on our draft proposed Charter at https://github.com/w3c/apa/blob/charter-2023/charter.html -- taken up [from janina]
15:13:44 [janina]
+1
15:13:47 [PaulG]
+1
15:13:54 [Roy]
+1
15:13:56 [mike_beganyi]
+1
15:15:07 [matatk]
matatk: Propses a sentence at the start of the external orgs section to explain it's as-and-when, and we have worked with those in the past. Assume it's editorial though.
15:15:15 [matatk]
janina: *confirms it's editorial*
15:15:31 [Fazio]
+1
15:15:57 [matatk]
janina: We met with Web Payment Security Interest Group a couple of weeks back; was a productive meeting; intent to continue working with them.
15:17:02 [matatk]
matatk: We should add Blissymbolics Communication International (as we are working with them).
15:17:05 [matatk]
janina: Yes.
15:17:14 [matatk]
+1 (to CfC on charter)
15:17:27 [matatk]
janina: I asked Roy to look for refs to "Personalization" and update to "WAI-Adapt"
15:19:02 [matatk]
Roy: Due to IP/process issues, we do need to retain some references to "Personalization Semantics Content Module" as it's a current draft.
15:19:14 [Fredrik]
]q on CFC on teh Chartert, /1 on Zoom connection (from my side at least; can anyone see me in the meeting?).
15:19:30 [matatk]
janina: Let's agree to update that draft before this gets to the AC, to avoid confusion.
15:19:40 [matatk]
q+ Fredrik
15:20:55 [matatk]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/01-apa-minutes.html matatk
15:21:02 [Fredrik]
Thanks Mat - working on it...
15:24:04 [matatk]
RESOLUTION: APA avers we are ready for a Call for Consensus on our draft proposed Charter at https://github.com/w3c/apa/blob/charter-2023/charter.html
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zakim, next item
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I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, matatk
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q- Fredrik
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
15:24:33 [matatk]
Roy: No new charters this week.
15:24:36 [matatk]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 4 closed
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I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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5. Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues [from janina]
15:24:38 [matatk]
zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina]
15:24:52 [Roy]
subtopic: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.2
15:24:52 [Roy]
- issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/52
15:24:52 [Roy]
- due date: 2023-02-24
15:25:27 [matatk]
q+
15:26:57 [matatk]
matatk: I'll look at it.
15:26:58 [Roy]
subtopic: RDF Dataset Canonicalization
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- issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/51
15:27:01 [Roy]
- tracked: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/RDF_Dataset_Canonicalization
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- spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-canon/
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/RDF_Dataset_Canonicalization
15:28:15 [matatk]
Roy: We decided no need to review earlier (per the wiki); I propose to sign off.
15:28:23 [matatk]
janina: Yes, please do.
15:28:43 [Fredrik]
No luck at all with Zoom today, have to look into that further down the line. I type and read in the IRC and that's very much okay for now.
15:28:55 [matatk]
zakim, next item
15:28:55 [Zakim]
I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, matatk
15:28:57 [Fredrik]
matatk: Want a hand with the WCA?
15:28:57 [matatk]
ack me
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zakim, next item
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agendum 6 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
15:30:03 [matatk]
janina: How do we recognize that some of these items have timeouts and some don't? Seems they are two separate interfaces, so we should have two separate items for now at least.
15:30:12 [Fredrik]
"Otherwise" sounds fine. I'll post you tonight.
15:30:54 [matatk]
rrsaigent, make minutes
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zakim, next item
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agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
15:31:16 [matatk]
Roy: no new publications this week.
15:31:21 [matatk]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 7 closed
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I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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8. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from janina]
15:31:23 [matatk]
zakim, next item
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agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
15:32:10 [matatk]
PaulG: No new issues; will report on tonight's meeting next week.
15:32:26 [matatk]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 8 closed
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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:32:26 [Zakim]
9. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open [from janina]
15:32:27 [matatk]
zakim, next item
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agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
15:33:08 [matatk]
janina: Reminder: Tracker is going away soon. We will move to GitHub.
15:33:16 [matatk]
... If you need help, please ask me or Matthew.
15:33:45 [matatk]
... We are talking about making GitHub tracking easier in our planning calls, and think we can resolve most of the issues that we anticipate.
15:33:54 [matatk]
... If you have any concerns, please let us know as soon as you can.
15:34:01 [Fredrik]
janina: Will there be any particulars for W3C/WAI on GitHub or will that be more or less standard issue githubbing going on?
15:35:02 [matatk]
janina: Fredrik: we think it'll be fairly standard.
15:35:24 [matatk]
... We _may_ be able to tweak things/tooling for some people; we are working on it, but nothing concrete yet.
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zakim, next item
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agendum 10 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
15:35:58 [Fredrik]
janina: Exciting, looking forward to further developments!
15:36:42 [matatk]
agenda?
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 10 closed
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I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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11. Other Business [from janina]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
15:37:08 [matatk]
q+
15:38:06 [matatk]
matatk: We had a great initial meeting with the Accessibility for Childern Community Group and Adapt TF. Minutes: https://www.w3.org/2023/01/30-adapt-minutes.html
15:38:25 [matatk]
janina: They've been working on some very interesting things, including an ontology that we think will expand our use cases.
15:38:55 [matatk]
... The AC CG will be working on contributing ot our Explainer document to highlight some curb cuts we can do in areas other than symbols.
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rrsagent, make minutes
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Fazio: I am looking into the research I mentioned a while back on AAC devices and voices (and effects on learning); have contact details. The work was done in the Bay area.
15:40:35 [matatk]
janina: Thank you David. Rachael had some pointers on some similar-sounding work too, will forward those.
15:40:49 [matatk]
zakim, close this item
15:40:49 [Zakim]
I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, matatk
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q?
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ack me
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 11 closed
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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12. be done [from janina]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 12 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
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janina: Thanks all!
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