IRC log of aria-apg on 2023-01-31
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/01/31-aria-apg-irc
- 18:55:05 [Matt_King]
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- MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force
- 18:55:33 [Matt_King]
- CHAIR: Jemma
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- present+
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/31-aria-apg-minutes.html Matt_King
- 19:02:35 [Jem]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/January-31%2C-2023-Agenda
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- scribe+ Helen
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- Topic: Status of in-progress site updates
- 19:04:08 [Jem]
- TOPIC: Status of in-progress site updates
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- 19:04:22 [helen]
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- 19:05:29 [Jem]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2417
- 19:06:09 [helen]
- matt: making change to pre-build script
- 19:06:45 [Jem]
- CHAIR: Matt
- 19:06:47 [howard-e]
- https://github.com/w3c/wai-aria-practices/pull/184
- 19:07:17 [helen]
- howard: restructure of the page getting reviewed
- 19:07:40 [helen]
- matt: put the redirect in place before making the change live
- 19:08:17 [helen]
- howard: next attempt to publish on Thursday and hope get things ready today
- 19:08:31 [jamesn]
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- 19:08:58 [Jem]
- Work in progress on first AT support table - pull request #2569
- 19:08:59 [Github]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2569 : Button Example: Add AT support tables from ARIA-AT
- 19:09:15 [helen]
- matt: request from this task force and the AT group
- 19:09:57 [helen]
- alex: switching to Aria AP site and going through the issues
- 19:10:49 [Jem]
- In the support table cells that contain the word "None", change copy to one of the two options described below.
- 19:11:11 [helen]
- alex: looking into one issue mentioned in the table: changing "none" to "not applicable" to see if it's reasonable to quickly add it
- 19:11:19 [Jem]
- one for we don't have the data due to combination of mac and jaws and nvda
- 19:11:37 [Jem]
- the other one is where the testing results are not available yet.
- 19:11:47 [helen]
- matt: maybe make a separate issue to track it for the sake of time
- 19:12:10 [helen]
- alex: trying to get it by this week while working on the app
- 19:12:46 [helen]
- matt: that puts us on the right track for the final review
- 19:13:29 [helen]
- matt: next issues to consider: "link alert" and "radio group"
- 19:13:48 [Jem]
- In cells that contain the word "None", change copy to one of the two options described below.
- 19:13:57 [Jem]
- s/In cells that contain the word "None", change copy to one of the two options described below./ /
- 19:14:12 [Jem]
- Same level navigation on Single Pattern and Single Practice pages
- 19:14:47 [helen]
- jemma: need a template for "same level of navigation on single pattern and single practice page"
- 19:15:04 [helen]
- matt: need Shaun's input
- 19:15:40 [helen]
- matt: last week the group disucssed about bringing new talents to the project
- 19:16:32 [helen]
- matt: finding ways to broadly marketing the projects and attrack contributors
- 19:17:11 [helen]
- TOPIC: APG TF Vision Discussion
- 19:17:30 [helen]
- matt: what the template would look like for starter projects?
- 19:18:44 [helen]
- matt: what would be a good platform to use? e.g. wiki page?
- 19:20:35 [helen]
- curtis: need guidance for the format or process being used
- 19:21:15 [helen]
- matt: one potential audience is people who are already on GitHub and contributing, marketing on Github makes it easier for them
- 19:21:47 [helen]
- matt: for people who are not familiar with Github it can be a barrier
- 19:22:49 [helen]
- curtis: even people who use github may need more guidance for the review process
- 19:23:41 [helen]
- mark: when processes involve a lot of jargons, it's helpful to provide basic instructions
- 19:24:13 [helen]
- james: a list of commands for beginners to help understand the technology
- 19:26:32 [helen]
- matt: we can make a github issue for providing guidance and also something to make it easier to help people know where to start
- 19:29:32 [helen]
- matt: for the current members, query the current issues and come up with a list of potential starter projects, and then identify additional information to add
- 19:30:26 [helen]
- matt: what are potential places where we can find interested audiences?
- 19:35:31 [helen]
- matt: we can try to reach beyond the accessiblity community to those IT professionals who haven't thought about contributing to accessibility
- 19:36:21 [helen]
- curtis: come cross some broken links in the wiki
- 19:37:16 [helen]
- matt: will look into broken links
- 19:37:48 [helen]
- TOPIC: New Issue Action Planning
- 19:38:44 [Matt_King]
- new issues list: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2021-08-15+no%3Alabel++sort%3Aupdated-desc
- 19:39:49 [Matt_King]
- TOPIC: Issue 2576 Seeking advice about conditional non-radio fields appearing inside radiogroup
- 19:40:04 [Matt_King]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2021-08-15+no%3Alabel++sort%3Aupdated-desc
- 19:40:51 [Matt_King]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2576
- 19:48:46 [helen]
- matt: the input is outside of radio group unless "other" is checked, in which case use the aria-labled by
- 19:49:45 [Matt_King]
- Advice: Place input outside radio group. Disable unless last radio is checked. Use aria-labelledby to label the input.
- 19:49:51 [jamesn]
- https://design-system.service.gov.uk/components/radios/conditional-reveal-error/index.html
- 19:52:30 [Matt_King]
- HTML is somewhat more flexible b/c canput elements between radios.
- 19:53:13 [Matt_King]
- In aria could use group instead of radiogroup, but placing intermediate elements between radios could break the aria-setsize calculation by the browser.
- 19:53:42 [Matt_King]
- Could use aria-setsize and aria-posinset to override broser calculations.
- 19:54:47 [Matt_King]
- Would be good to mock up this test case in ARIA using aria group, aria-setsize, and aria-posinset.
- 19:56:15 [Matt_King]
- TOPIC: ISSUE 2583 The aria-current docs aren't clear about how to handle a "current" nav-item that isn't a link-to-current-page.
- 19:56:56 [Matt_King]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2583
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- Advice: use 'aria-current="true" but the AT may have the same result as aria-current="page"
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- TOPIC: Next Time
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- Next meeting is on Feb. 7th
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- 20:05:57 [helen]
- *matt: yes, will do
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- @shawn the deploy PR is available at https://github.com/w3c/wai-aria-practices/pull/185
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