14:48:50 RRSAgent has joined #i18n 14:48:55 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/01/26-i18n-irc 14:48:55 Zakim has joined #i18n 14:48:58 trackbot, prepare teleconference 14:49:01 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:49:04 Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 14:49:04 Date: 26 January 2023 14:49:12 agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/be0342b6-7f8e-4050-af8a-0de6e86f8088/20230126T150000 14:49:12 clear agenda 14:49:12 agenda+ Agenda Review 14:49:12 agenda+ Action Items 14:49:14 agenda+ Info Share 14:49:16 agenda+ RADAR Review 14:49:17 Chair: Addison Phillips 14:49:18 agenda+ Pending Issue Review 14:49:21 agenda+ String-Meta explainer 14:49:23 agenda+ Format of agendas in calendar 14:49:25 agenda+ Adding 't' labels to issues 14:49:28 agenda+ AOB? 14:49:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/26-i18n-minutes.html addison 14:52:43 present+ 15:00:35 present+ Richard, Atsushi 15:01:03 JcK has joined #i18n 15:02:40 present+ JcK 15:05:05 zakim, take up agendum 1 15:05:05 agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:05:07 agenda? 15:05:33 addison: anything else? 15:05:34 zakim, take up agendum 2 15:05:34 agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:05:44 https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open 15:06:36 addison: 1183, discussion item later 15:06:57 addison: 1224, you see email from me, no reply yet 15:07:13 ... seek more people to ask to check 15:08:09 addison: 1229, a bit more work, but writing some incl. for string-meta 15:08:34 addison: 1234, issues with meta charset in html, went back and read issues 15:09:07 ... reviewed character set handling closely, original comment was to introduce charset into flagment sample whether to add charset or not 15:09:28 ... could be nice to have one 15:10:03 ... looking into all other charset stuff, I'd agree to close these issues 15:10:17 q+ 15:10:24 ... in short, did action items, and to close 15:11:22 r12a: for these emails, some experiment, like latin-1 accent mark in html, I run into garbage depends on source location 15:11:49 ... looked headers, no encoding there or utf-8 for some server 15:12:30 addison: for files, there are no header 15:13:08 addison: when I look at encoding in HTML, it seems full for me 15:13:42 r12a: even if in spec, what will happen when not doing so? 15:14:19 addison: to put in introduction, something like, to write utf-8 encoding 15:14:48 https://html.spec.whatwg.org/dev/introduction.html#a-quick-introduction-to-html 15:16:07 addison: do you want me to get back and write proposal? 15:16:09 ... will try 15:16:20 ... keep action item open, and make PR 15:17:08 zakim, take up agendum 3 15:17:08 agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:17:45 https://github.com/openui/open-ui/issues/600 15:17:54 r12a: came across with above issue, in open-ui 15:18:37 ... forms works for vertical, which is good, but don't forget about Mongolian vertical-lr 15:18:55 Japanese https://r12a.github.io/scripts/jpan/ja.html#interaction 15:18:55 Chinese https://r12a.github.io/scripts/hani/zh.html#interaction 15:18:55 Mongolian https://r12a.github.io/scripts/mong/mn.html#interaction 15:19:02 ... we don't have enough information for expectation, and made several examples 15:19:15 ... if you come across this topic, see pictures 15:19:36 ... also started gap reports on forms 15:19:55 ... vertical text mentiones, and also for progress bars etc. 15:20:39 r12a: doing some work with @@@1 15:21:02 ... new document as FPWD for @@@2 and @@@3 scripts, already have gap-analysis 15:21:11 s/@@@2/Punjabi/ 15:21:19 s/@@@3/Gurmukhi/ 15:21:22 ... yesterday started with copying headings 15:21:42 https://r12a.github.io/scripts/index.html#termbases 15:22:06 r12a: starting blocks from vocabulary 15:22:22 ... been working well, and also changed UI to user friendly 15:22:35 ... large entries there 15:22:47 ... across 62 languages 15:23:01 https://r12a.github.io/scripts/mong/mn_vocab.html 15:23:32 [example for script] 15:27:07 zakim, take up agendum 4 15:27:07 agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:27:15 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 15:27:34 addison: we have rdf dataset canonicalization self review 15:28:43 s/large entries/151,331 entries/ 15:29:11 ... just a self review, I will have some questions on self review 15:29:23 addison: for in review, I have two issue for SPC 15:29:43 zakim, take up agendum 5 15:29:43 agendum 5 -- Pending Issue Review -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:29:45 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1647 15:30:42 addison: 1647 for SPC, they added number of items into data for request or return, our request is to add locale for example 15:31:23 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1648 15:32:12 addison: another, 1648 for SPC, they point an issue for display 15:32:56 ... for us to decide whether to include issue into spec 15:33:06 r12a: having these should be useful 15:33:21 addison: will create an issue 15:33:44 agenda? 15:34:15 zakim, take up agendum 7 15:34:15 agendum 7 -- Format of agendas in calendar -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:34:35 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/be0342b6-7f8e-4050-af8a-0de6e86f8088/20230126T150000 15:35:36 r12a: looking into announcement around calendar, when agenda sent for this meeting, some are unlabelled 15:35:57 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/be0342b6-7f8e-4050-af8a-0de6e86f8088/20230126T150000 15:36:53 r12a: be prepared, that is the first for new users, and for agenda you have as headings and for agendabot 15:37:19 addison: top one is formattable, one for agendabot is picked by agendabot 15:37:32 ... so agenda are in two places 15:37:56 r12a: that seems a bit strange 15:38:43 addison: agendabot recognizes 'topic:' and put into irc 15:39:06 ... I can do another markup for 'topic:' and heading line 15:39:37 bert: if people likes to write agenda in heading style, could be inported into agendabot 15:42:56 [conversation on possible format, incl. adding comment between Topic: lines] 15:44:25 action: addison: update the agenda format per discussion 15:44:32 Created ACTION-1235 - Update the agenda format per discussion [on Addison Phillips - due 2023-02-02]. 15:44:42 zakim, take up agendum 8 15:44:42 agendum 8 -- Adding 't' labels to issues -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:45:07 r12a: I looked issue list and bunch does not have t: labels 15:45:23 ... I've changed instructions for raising issues, highlighing t: labels 15:45:59 ... when you raise issue, putting pending, try to find a section and put t: label 15:46:28 ... anytime we get issue raised via PLH tools, need to add t: labels while removing pending 15:46:45 ... I might need to send new instructions to him 15:47:23 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/new?assignees=&labels=pending&template=add-a-review-comment--pending-discussion-by-i18n-wg-.md&title=Short_but_informative_title_here 15:47:33 addison: two pendings I raised, without t: label 15:47:56 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/new?assignees=&labels=&template=create-a-tracker.md&title=Copy_the_title_of_the_WG_issue_here 15:48:31 r12a: check instruction shown in above link 15:50:58 r12a: in specdev, you have table of contents, which are picked for t: labels 15:52:10 zakim, take up agendum 6 15:52:10 agendum 6 -- String-Meta explainer -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:52:46 addison: in cooperation with conversations, and also for message format group 15:53:26 ... will bring back to us once get something 15:53:40 zakim, take up agendum 9 15:53:42 agendum 9 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot] 15:54:05 addison: any info about tracker bot? 15:54:08 r12a: no 15:54:15 ... got message as stay tuned 15:58:10 addison: might need label for building dashboard 16:00:36 (My bot is currently called GHURLbot, for GitHub-URL-bot, if you're interested. Looking for a better name...) 16:02:07 zakim, make minutes 16:02:07 I don't understand 'make minutes', addison 16:02:48 .quit 16:18:25 rsagent, publish minutes 16:18:29 rrsagent, make log public 16:19:04 s/rsagent, publish minutes// 16:19:06 rssagent, publish minutes 16:19:16 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/26-i18n-minutes.html addison 16:19:22 s/rssagent, publish minutes// 16:19:34 present+ Bert 16:20:08 close action-1224 16:20:08 Closed action-1224. 16:20:47 zakim, bye 16:20:47 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been addison, Richard, Atsushi, JcK, Bert 16:20:47 Zakim has left #i18n