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14:59:50 <kaz> meeting: WoT Discovery
15:00:14 <kaz> present: Kaz_Ashimura, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Michael_McCool
15:00:17 <kaz> chair: McCool
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15:04:16 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
15:06:05 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann
15:06:20 <kaz> scribenick: FarshidT
15:06:38 <FarshidT> topic: CR Publication
15:07:00 <FarshidT> s/CR Publication/Minutes/
15:07:03 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2022/12/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html
15:07:36 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
15:07:41 <kaz> s/html/html Dec-19
15:07:48 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:07:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:07:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:08:20 <FarshidT> mmc: did not go through PRs last time
15:08:53 <FarshidT> topic: CR Publication
15:09:16 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2023/CR-wot-discovery-20230119/ @@
15:09:24 <FarshidT> mmc: official publication on Jan 19th
15:09:43 <kaz> s/@@/19 January 2023 CR for WoT Discovery/
15:09:55 <FarshidT> ... some DNS-SD changes didn't make it into the publication, in particular the TCP/UDP split
15:10:25 <FarshidT> ... we had a PR for it but it wasn't merged last time. It was overlooked.
15:10:53 <FarshidT> ... another issue is the missing context for DID JSON-LD objects
15:11:32 <FarshidT> ... I also don't think we registered the 'wot' well-known name
15:11:43 <FarshidT> ... we need to address these in a second CR
15:12:28 <kaz> i/some DND-SD/topic: Remaining Problems/
15:12:29 <FarshidT> DNS-SD TXT assertion split: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/450
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15:13:39 <FarshidT> DID Context fix: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/451
15:14:15 <FarshidT> mmc: the PRs change many files. need to be careful not to replace something by mistake
15:16:22 <FarshidT> ... the DID change adds an assertion
15:17:02 <FarshidT> ft: the URL is given but it doesn't resolve as the ontology is missing
15:17:55 <kaz> i|the PRs changes|Add WotThing and WotDirectory service types: https://github.com/w3c/did-spec-registries/pull/486|
15:18:53 <kaz> q+
15:19:28 <FarshidT> kaz: if the change is limited to DID, we don't need to re-publish the CR
15:19:28 <kaz> ack k
15:20:09 <FarshidT> mmc: we are adding an assertion which is a normative change, and fixing the example which is non-normative
15:20:41 <FarshidT> ... we could simply refer to the DID spec instead of adding the assertion and ontology
15:23:38 <FarshidT> ... I'd like to merge these and go for the CR2
15:24:27 <kaz> q+
15:24:55 <FarshidT> ... during the two weeks period, we should also do the CoreRD registration
15:25:14 <kaz> ack k
15:26:24 <FarshidT> ... members get a chance to vote for the need of CR2
15:27:54 <FarshidT> mmc: Looking to get approval for merging DNS-SD split PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/450
15:29:55 <McCool> proposal: Discovery TF agrees to merge updates to index.html in PR #450 (only; PR will be updated) in draft CR2
15:30:25 <McCool> resolution: Discovery TF agrees to merge updates to index.html in PR #450 (only; PR will be updated) in draft CR2
15:30:41 <kaz> q+
15:31:30 <kaz> ack k
15:33:47 <kaz> kaz: from my viewpoint, this change was caused by some kind of bug fix, so we should talk with PLH
15:34:08 <kaz> s/PLH/PLH before submitting actual CR2 transition request to him./
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15:36:26 <FarshidT> mmc: PR DID context fix (https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/451) uses a provisional URL, but we need to make sure it will be valid
15:36:46 <FarshidT> ... the URL adds a sub-path to those used for discovery's ontology
15:37:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:37:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:38:37 <McCool> proposal: Discovery TF agrees to merge updates to index.html in PR #451 (only; PR will be updated) in draft CR2
15:39:04 <kaz> q+
15:42:26 <kaz> ack k
15:42:29 <McCool> resolution: Discovery TF agrees to merge updates to index.html in PR #451 (only; PR will be updated) in draft CR2
15:43:57 <FarshidT> mmc: we'll update the working draft for now which would be uses as basis for the CR2
15:44:21 <FarshidT> s/CR2/a proposed CR2 draft/
15:44:50 <FarshidT> topic: Next Charter
15:44:53 <kaz> s/be uses/be used/
15:46:11 <FarshidT> mmc: we have several work items such as thing model, jsonpath, query filters, geolocation, security scheme ontology, signing
15:46:27 <kaz> i/We'll update the/what do you mean by "CR2" here? As I mentioned, we should talk with PLH again about how to deal with the updated draft before sending the next transition request so that we can see which would fit CR or PR./
15:46:49 <kaz> i/we'll update the/What do you mean by "CR2" here? As I mentioned, we should talk with PLH again about how to deal with the updated draft before sending the next transition request so that we can see which would fit CR or PR./
15:47:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:47:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:47:07 <FarshidT> ... we also need to discuss backward compatibility issues with TD
15:47:07 <cris_> q+
15:48:15 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:48:15 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Jan_Romann
15:48:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see JKRhb, cris_, ktoumura, McCool, Mizushima, RRSAgent, Zakim, FarshidT, zkis, kaz, benfrancis, driib
15:48:46 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
15:48:51 <JKRhb> q+
15:49:02 <FarshidT> ca: for backward compatibility, there are a lot of blockers for server developers. But it would be a nice addition for users.
15:49:39 <JKRhb> q-
15:49:48 <cris_> ack c
15:50:05 <FarshidT> Current draft: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wot-wg-2023-draft.html
15:50:10 <FarshidT> Rendered from main: https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2023-draft.html
15:50:36 <kaz> q+
15:50:46 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1066
15:51:59 <FarshidT> kaz: some decisions are too specific. The details need to be decided by the WGs
15:54:11 <FarshidT> topic: Implementation Report
15:54:30 <FarshidT> Update Implementation Report - Jan 2023: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/459
15:54:52 <FarshidT> mmc: there are some conflicts. Needs more work.
15:54:58 <kaz> s/the WGs/the WGs later. We don't need to stop gathering input itself, but should clarify the expected level and granularity of the description for each description for the WG Charter before getting too detail descriptions for each spec./
15:55:26 <Mizushima> +1 kaz
15:55:50 <kaz> i/topic: Imple/mm: yeah, don't disagree.../
15:56:56 <FarshidT> topic: Testing
15:57:08 <FarshidT> mmc: still a lot of open at-risk items
15:57:19 <FarshidT> ... to be discussed in the next call
15:58:30 <FarshidT> ... will merge https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/529 which impacts the discovery report.
15:59:42 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:59:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:59:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:00:34 <kaz> [adjourned]
16:00:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:00:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:01:06 <kaz> s/don't disagree/scribenick: kaz/
16:01:21 <kaz> i/Update Imp/scribenick: FarshidT/
16:01:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:01:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:01:48 <kaz> i|CR Publication|Minutes approved|
16:01:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:01:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:03:39 <kaz> i/some DNS-SD/topic: Remaining Problems/
16:03:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:03:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:04:14 <kaz> s/topic: Remaining Problems/subtopic: Remaining Problems/
16:04:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:04:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:05:30 <kaz> s/subtopic: Remaining Problems/topic: Remaining Problems/
16:05:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:05:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:05:56 <kaz> i/Minutes app/scribenick: kaz/
16:06:14 <kaz> i/official publication/scribenick: FarshidT/
16:06:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:06:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:09:57 <kaz> i/from my viewpoint/scribenick: kaz/
16:10:13 <kaz> i/PR DID context/scribenick: FarshidT/
16:10:34 <kaz> i/What do you mean/scribenick: kaz/
16:10:45 <kaz> s/What do you mean/kaz: What do you mean/
16:11:03 <kaz> i/we'll update the/scribenick: FarshidT/
16:11:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:11:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
16:32:32 <kaz> s/mm: yeah, scribenick: kaz/mm: yeah, don't disagree/
16:32:46 <kaz> i/mm: yeah, don't disagree/scribenick: kaz/
16:32:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:32:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
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