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20:51:57 <PWinstanley> chair: PWinstanley
20:52:39 <PWinstanley> regrets+ AndreaPerego, alejandra
20:52:54 <PWinstanley> rrsagent, create minutes v2
20:52:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/17-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
20:53:38 <PWinstanley> meeting: DXWG Plenary
20:53:53 <PWinstanley> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2023.01.17
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20:54:13 <PWinstanley> meeting: DXWG Plenary
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20:54:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/17-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
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21:13:16 <annette_g> scribenick: annette_g
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21:13:29 <PWinstanley> proposed: accept minutes of https://www.w3.org/2022/12/06-dxwg-minutes
21:13:29 <annette_g> present+
21:13:30 <riccardoAlbertoni> present
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21:14:03 <PWinstanley> +0 not there
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21:14:37 <PWinstanley> resolved: accept minutes of https://www.w3.org/2022/12/06-dxwg-minutes
21:15:58 <annette_g> PWinstanley: I was wondering, Pierre-Antoine, what about meeting face to face in 2023?
21:16:58 <DaveBrowning> rrsagent, generate minutes
21:16:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/17-dxwg-minutes.html DaveBrowning
21:17:06 <annette_g> pchampin: TPAC is in Seville in September
21:17:31 <pchampin> TPAC: 2023-09-11 to 2013-09-15
21:17:49 <annette_g> PWinstanley: Rob wrote to say he apoligizes that he's got another meeting. He is working to get a group chartered in OGC.
21:19:20 <annette_g> He also says he hadn't heard anything about the group working on content negotiation by profile.
21:19:48 <PWinstanley> roba writes:  We are also looking at the characterisation of the OGC API 'building blocks" using PROF, and will need to explore some nuanced understanding of the dct:conformsTo predicate when referencing an API that exposes a data model that uses a particular profile of another data model...  we will develop an implementation and raise an issue then seek to restart the sub-WG for PROF on that basis.
21:20:03 <annette_g> pchampin: That has not been in the discussions of the RDF working group at the moment. We're still nitpicking about semantics. Probably I should reactivate that discussion.
21:20:24 <annette_g> ... the idea is to use profile negotiation with legacy servers that don't yet understand RDF*.
21:20:53 <annette_g> ...To be able to profile the media type. That's something we will need to figure out. I'll need to get back with Rob about that.
21:21:35 <annette_g> action: pchampin to activate discussion in RDF* working group on content negotiation by profile.
21:22:06 <annette_g> topic: DCAT update
21:22:08 <DaveBrowning> rrsagent, generate minutes
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21:22:35 <annette_g> riccardoAlbertoni: We didn't have a DCAT meeting last week, but we had some advancement at Christmas time.
21:22:52 <annette_g> ... re horizontal review, the issues from that are closed.
21:23:30 <annette_g> ... We still have the privacy and security group pending, waiting to hear from Nick Doty.
21:23:38 <annette_g> PWinstanley: At what point do we time out?
21:24:54 <annette_g> riccardoAlbertoni: I ask pchampin for advice, and the thought was that we wait and see if he will reply soon. The security group has never reviewed our work and it seems it is not very active. plh suggested we not consider silence as approval, but we decide to mover forward anyway.
21:25:01 <annette_g> s/mover/move/
21:25:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> "DXWG declares a time-out of the Security review. This means that DXWG decides to proceed rather than stalling the rec process by awaiting the Security Group review."
21:25:42 <annette_g> PWinstanley: what would be the risk of ignoring and moving forward? My impression is that it wouldn't be that significant, given that we've been this way before.
21:27:10 <annette_g> pchampin: We don't want this to block the progress of the working group. We just acknowledge that we didn't get any feedback. We can point out that previous versions of the rec were reviewed, so the risk is considered low enough.,
21:27:49 <annette_g> proposed: we agree to move forward in the absence of security review, but that we know that if something comes up we will move quickly to address it.
21:28:22 <pchampin> +1
21:28:24 <annette_g> +1
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21:28:35 <PWinstanley> +1
21:29:00 <annette_g> resolved:  we agree to move forward in the absence of security review, but that we know that if something comes up we will move quickly to address it.
21:29:14 <DaveBrowning> rrsagent, draft minutes
21:29:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/17-dxwg-minutes.html DaveBrowning
21:30:14 <annette_g> PWinstanley: riccardoAlbertoni, what's going on with the schedule?
21:30:33 <annette_g> riccardoAlbertoni: we need to discuss this in the group. I'm not sure what level of commitment I can make to speed up the process.
21:32:05 <annette_g> ... someone from the CENIC group contacted us. I started a discussion and we will soon have a proposal, but I can't say that we'll be on the schedule.
21:32:33 <annette_g> PWinstanley: There's nothing holding us back from the security review now.
21:33:21 <annette_g> riccardoAlbertoni: Maybe we want to advance it a bit before going for publication. There are still many issues in the github, but a lot of it is future work. Some of it we need to give a short reply acknowledging the feedback.
21:33:27 <PWinstanley> s/CENIC/SEMIC/
21:33:42 <annette_g> PWinstanley: any other business?
21:34:13 <annette_g> PWinstanley: any news from Japan? What are plans from the data trading association with regard to catalogs?
21:34:32 <annette_g> nobu_ogura: There will be a roundtable in Brussels in February.
21:35:02 <annette_g> ... We are getting quite a lot of inquiries from european organizations. We decided to have a roundtable.
21:35:15 <annette_g> PWinstanley: Please circulate information about that. What dates?
21:35:26 <annette_g> nobu_ogura: 6th through 8th. I plan on attending.
21:35:36 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/but I can't say that we'll be on the schedule./but I can't say much about the schedule as discussion are still in place
21:36:09 <annette_g> rrsagent, draft minutes
21:36:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/17-dxwg-minutes.html annette_g
21:37:09 <PWinstanley> rrsagent, create minutes v2
21:37:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/17-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley