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14:55:02 <trackbot> Meeting: WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference
14:55:02 <trackbot> Date: 19 December 2022
14:55:12 <sharon> chair: sharon
14:55:16 <sharon> agenda?
14:55:37 <sharon> agenda+ Holiday schedule reminder
14:55:52 <sharon> agenda+ CR status
14:56:10 <sharon> agenda+ Symbol Module Implementations
14:56:27 <sharon> agenda+ Autocomplete
14:56:42 <sharon> agenda+ Recruiting
14:56:47 <sharon> agenda?
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15:01:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
15:01:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
15:02:17 <janina> present+
15:02:27 <Roy> present+
15:02:33 <matatk> present+
15:05:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
15:07:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:07:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Holiday schedule reminder -- taken up [from sharon]
15:08:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Dec 26 off for Winter Holiday. Jan 2 off, too close to New Years. Jan 9 on, Jan 16 off (MLK)
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15:09:55 <mike_beganyi> present+
15:09:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:09:58 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- CR status -- taken up [from sharon]
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15:10:47 <becky> present+
15:14:01 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/237
15:14:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We are merging Matthew's PR into the Explainer
15:15:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Should we publish an updated explainer working draft?
15:15:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: Yes. Major enough changes were made, and updating working drafts is routine.
15:15:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> sharon: This includes all the symbol updates as well, so yes
15:15:48 <matatk> +1
15:15:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> +1
15:15:57 <janina> +1
15:15:59 <mike_beganyi> +1
15:16:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
15:16:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> RESOLVED: Task Force requests publication of Explainer updated working draft
15:16:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
15:16:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/19-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
15:17:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
15:17:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:17:24 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Symbol Module Implementations -- taken up [from sharon]
15:23:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I was thinking that one implementation could be that, a symbol board user could get an interopable JSON file describing the symbols that were on the board that I learned
15:23:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... then I as a patient could have a continuation of my therapuetic surrounding
15:24:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Consider that current symbol dedicated-devices could also load and render symbols for web pages.
15:25:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... if they are increasingly using small device off-the-shelf operating systems, where Web support is built in already
15:32:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> sharon: We had minuted a discussion with a Firefox developer
15:32:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: And Matt's prototyped AAC tool
15:32:56 <sharon> q?
15:33:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:33:34 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Autocomplete -- taken up [from sharon]
15:34:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: This is part of an overall due diligence series, taking a new look at our architecture.
15:36:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... There are a few technical details to check against the last version of the spec
15:36:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... autcomplete may not work in all our use cases
15:37:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the rules already seemed quite complex, so broadening autocomplete may be out of the question
15:37:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> q+
15:38:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Critical to check exactly how we are using it
15:38:27 <sharon> ack Lionel_Wolberger
15:38:46 <janina> +1
15:40:09 <sharon> q+
15:40:44 <matatk> +1 to Lionel's idea of doing something structured, and recording the result
15:40:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Sounds like we are embarking on a gap analysis between certain pre-existing standards and our proposed standard.
15:41:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... if so, we should summarize any findings, so we can refer to this in future.
15:41:10 <sharon> ack sharon
15:41:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> ack Lionel_Wolberger
15:41:27 <matatk> +1 to sharon, Janina, re making the results clear and discoverable.
15:41:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We need to satisfy TAG that we have thought this through
15:43:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> q+
15:45:06 <matatk> q+
15:45:14 <sharon> ack Lionel_Wolberger
15:45:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Gap analysis can proceed lightweight as follows:
15:45:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Identify the two HTML elements that you want to compare
15:46:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> Determine the purpose and intended use of each
15:46:12 <sharon> q?
15:46:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Determine the purpose and intended use of each
15:46:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Compare the structure and content of the two elements
15:46:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> .... Identify any discrepancies or differences between the two elements. These may include differences in structure, content, or functionality.
15:47:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> ...  Summarize list of the specific areas where the two elements differ and note any potential impacts or consequences of these differences.
15:47:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... look at root cause of any discrepancies or differences that you have identified.
15:48:17 <sharon> ack matatk
15:49:09 <matatk> Starting point: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Comparison-of-ways-to-use-vocabulary-in-content
15:51:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: The table, https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Comparison-of-ways-to-use-vocabulary-in-content, is an ideal starting place for these gap analyses
15:51:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... We focus on the delivery mechanism
15:51:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the vocabulary style
15:51:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Then there are cases where we decided that we are going to use an attribute.
15:51:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Then, given that decision that we are committed to using an attribute
15:52:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we have a decision, shall we use a pre-existing attribute or a newly invented attribute
15:52:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... @rel was a good example, it was similar to 'destination'
15:52:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... this led to discussion of, what is the minimal number of changes that we require of @rel as-is, to make it do what Adapt TF deems needed for the 'next billion' disabled?
15:53:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... We certainly have considered all the different vocabularies
15:53:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I suggest we put the results of our Gap Analyses, such as they might be, and add them to the wiki
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17:00:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
17:00:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/19-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger