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14:52:44 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
14:52:44 <trackbot> Date: 16 December 2022
14:52:44 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Dec/0015
14:52:51 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:53:03 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Dec/0015
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14:54:05 <Steven> Previous Meeting: https://www.w3.org/2022/12/02-forms-minutes
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15:01:10 <Steven> Present: Alain, Erik, Steven
15:01:23 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2325: Steven and Erik, check the new submit-ready text
15:01:23 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Oct/0009
15:01:28 <Steven> Erik: Continues
15:01:40 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2326: Find out if iframe is deprecated.
15:01:40 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Dec/0007
15:01:46 <Steven> Steven: It isn't.
15:02:12 <Steven> ... there is a follow up on communication with iframes
15:02:50 <Steven> Topic: Autocomplete
15:02:50 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Dec/att-0009/00-part
15:03:17 <Steven> Steven: Where does it gets its data from?
15:03:23 <Steven> Alain: From the browser.
15:03:52 <Steven> Steven: My browser already autocompletes. What's the difference?
15:04:18 <Steven> Alain: It doesn't work well with passwords for instance.
15:05:03 <Steven> ... the autocomplete attribute allows specification of what can be completed.
15:05:39 <Steven> ... there are many possible values
15:06:29 <Steven> Steven: Couldn;t we make autocomplete match the datatype (like credit card)?
15:06:35 <Steven> s/;/'/
15:07:03 <Steven> Alain: Owen Ambur thought it could be interesting for his project.
15:07:49 <Steven> Steven: Let's investigate further how to integrate into XForms.
15:08:12 <Steven> Erik: Sounds like it's worth looking into.
15:08:35 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2328: Write an email proposing the use of <form/>
15:08:35 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Dec/att-0008/00-part
15:09:12 <Steven> Alain: It could be an option.
15:10:01 <Steven> Steven: You are suggesting moving all of XForms into a <form/> element in the bosy?
15:10:09 <Steven> Alain: Yes
15:10:19 <Steven> Erik: No opinion particularly.
15:10:46 <Steven> Steven: The content model of <form/> already supports this.
15:12:40 <Steven> Alain: The current <form/> is specified as a document element
15:12:50 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to check the <form/> element
15:12:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2329 - Check the <form/> element [on Steven Pemberton - due 2022-12-23].
15:13:13 <Steven> Alain: I read that a host element is required, but I don;t see why.
15:14:07 <Steven> Erik: Why is stylesheet a problem?
15:14:17 <Steven> Alain: Not really a problem.
15:14:41 <Steven> Erik: YOu want more than one?
15:14:48 <Steven> s/YO/Yo
15:15:22 <Steven> Erik: In practice style elements are allowed anywhere by browsers.
15:15:39 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2327 - Write an email proposing a method for events
15:15:39 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Dec/0010
15:16:19 <Steven> Steven: I don;t see a huge difference in what we are proposing, just how to propose it.
15:16:26 <Steven> s/;/'/
15:17:42 <Steven> Erik: There are 4 different things, dispatching in to out, out to in, listening on both sides.
15:18:37 <Steven> ... from out to in you can just use dispatch.
15:19:30 <Steven> Steven: It would bubble on the outside
15:19:33 <Steven> Erik: Right
15:20:20 <Steven> ... not in itself a problem.
15:21:38 <Steven> ... elements implement behaviour
15:22:36 <Steven> ... the control element could have a listener
15:22:47 <Steven> Steven: It would have to listen to all events
15:27:14 <Steven> ... I would like to do an implementation-independent definition without new concepts if possible.
15:27:28 <Steven> Erik: I agree
15:27:44 <Steven> Steven: But you are suggesting new attributes or attribute concepts.
15:34:31 <Steven> Steven: I think one way to solve this is to write forms to compare how they work.
15:36:37 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to write some example forms communicating with each other
15:36:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2330 - Write some example forms communicating with each other [on Steven Pemberton - due 2022-12-23].
15:36:55 <Steven> Topic: AOB
15:37:58 <Steven> Steven: My tutorial on XForms got accepted for the Web conference in Texas next year.
15:38:59 <Steven> ... next call 6 January
15:39:10 <Steven> ... have a great holiday period!
15:39:14 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
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