IRC log of maturity on 2022-12-14
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/12/14-maturity-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio_
- 15:51:58 [Fazio_]
- meeting: Maturity Model
- 15:52:24 [Fazio_]
- chair: Fazio, SBH
- 15:52:53 [Fazio_]
- Agenda+ New Business
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- Agenda+ Discuss Task Force Work Statement
- 15:58:24 [Fazio_]
- present+
- 15:59:17 [janina]
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- on my way!
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- present+
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- present+
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- 16:00:45 [janina]
- present+
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- zakim, who's here?
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- Present: Fazio_, jlkline, CharlesL, janina
- 16:00:50 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- present+
- 16:00:52 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, CharlesL, jlkline, janina, RRSAgent, Zakim, Fazio_, trackbot, jspellman
- 16:00:59 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, who's here?
- 16:00:59 [Zakim]
- Present: Fazio_, jlkline, CharlesL, janina, Lionel_Wolberger
- 16:01:01 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, CharlesL, jlkline, janina, RRSAgent, Zakim, Fazio_, trackbot, jspellman
- 16:01:20 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
- 16:01:22 [Sheri_B-H]
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- 16:01:24 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- agenda?
- 16:01:26 [Sheri_B-H]
- present+
- 16:02:02 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, next item
- 16:02:02 [Zakim]
- agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio_]
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- q+
- 16:02:43 [nadine]
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- present+
- 16:03:15 [janina]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/
- 16:04:20 [CharlesL]
- present+
- 16:05:31 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: Roy is taking care of the administratrivia to set us up as a workforce
- 16:05:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... and APA will then do what's needed to complete the process
- 16:05:51 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, next item
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- I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Lionel_Wolberger
- 16:05:57 [janina]
- ack ja
- 16:05:57 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 16:06:01 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ack Fazio_
- 16:06:04 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Discuss Task Force Work Statement -- taken up [from Fazio_]
- 16:07:29 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q+
- 16:08:08 [janina]
- +1 to David's "over time" wording
- 16:09:04 [jlkline]
- q+
- 16:09:18 [janina]
- q+
- 16:11:07 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel: Are we agreed that the TF is Maturity Model TF?
- 16:11:19 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: the name for the mail list will be maturity-public
- 16:11:23 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: Less words is better
- 16:11:43 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: And I like the "AMM" (Accessibility Maturity Model)
- 16:12:00 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... The TF will generally be in context of the APA so accessibility is clear
- 16:12:20 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Sheri_B-H: Like the AMM as well, just move it up.
- 16:13:08 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- jlkline: (Made suggestions for various edits)
- 16:15:16 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- jlkline: Not sure 'narrative' is the best word here. The mission is to create a model and a tool, not to create a narrative.
- 16:17:04 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- jlkline: Do we collect information or data?
- 16:18:12 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Sheri_B-H: the difference between information and data is context
- 16:19:34 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- jlkline: (Raised a question about the examples cited: do we need to cite ARIA and WCAG)
- 16:21:49 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: We do not want to limit ourselves to WAI standards, so the word 'other' is important
- 16:24:42 [CharlesL]
- 0
- 16:25:02 [Sheri_B-H]
- +1
- 16:25:06 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: +1 is keep the examples, -1 is remove, and 0 is indifferent
- 16:25:38 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... for the language, such as Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG)...
- 16:25:44 [janina]
- +1
- 16:25:45 [nadine]
- 0
- 16:25:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- -1
- 16:25:48 [Fazio_]
- 0
- 16:25:49 [CharlesL]
- 0
- 16:25:50 [Sheri_B-H]
- +1
- 16:25:55 [jlkline]
- poll -1
- 16:32:48 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- CharlesL: Should we look over the comments?
- 16:33:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Sheri_B-H: No need, they were just reminders and a 'todo' list
- 16:33:31 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Poll: +1 if you agree to forward this draft to APA management
- 16:33:33 [CharlesL]
- +1
- 16:33:33 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- +1
- 16:33:33 [Sheri_B-H]
- +1
- 16:33:36 [Fazio_]
- +1
- 16:33:36 [janina]
- +1
- 16:34:06 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Jeff also sends +1
- 16:34:21 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Fazio_: We have a work statement to go forward!
- 16:36:03 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- janina: APA intends to have the CfC at the beginning of the year, so watch your email list
- 16:38:20 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- CharlesL: Consider embedding the actual excel document in github
- 16:39:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: There are advantages to working in CSV
- 16:39:59 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Sheri_B-H: We would need to verify that the formulas work in CSV
- 16:41:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Fazio_: File a github issue to sort this out
- 16:43:52 [Fazio_]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/14-maturity-minutes.html Fazio_
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