IRC log of apa on 2022-12-14

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Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 14 December 2022
14:48:01 [matatk]
zakim, clear the agenda
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agenda cleared
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Chair: Matthew
14:49:50 [matatk]
agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
14:49:56 [matatk]
agenda+ New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
14:49:58 [matatk]
agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
14:50:01 [matatk]
agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
14:50:04 [matatk]
agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
14:50:06 [matatk]
agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
14:50:09 [matatk]
agenda+ Other Business
14:50:11 [matatk]
agenda+ be done for the year; thank you and well done, all!
14:50:21 [matatk]
regrets+ Alisa
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regrets+ Todd
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regrets+ Niklas
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present+
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present+
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present+
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present+
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Present+
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scribe+ janina
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present+
15:02:32 [Lionel]
Lionel warns the chairs— I have intermittent bandwidth.
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present+
15:02:57 [janina]
zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
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present+
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q+
15:05:03 [janina]
matatk: janina: Reminds this last call of 2022; Next is 4 Jan 2023
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agenda?
15:06:07 [Fazio]
scribe+
15:07:10 [janina]
janina: Announces she is withdrawing from W3C because of over scheduling; thanks to everyone
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ack me
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present+
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[people wish Becky the best and offer their thanks]
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s/janina: Announces she is/becky: Announces she is/
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+1 Becky welcome back anytime
15:11:03 [janina]
paul: Notes Pronunciation will begin meeting Mondays at 11:00 Boston; and will meet this coming Monday
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q?
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from matatk]
15:12:02 [janina]
regrets+ Gottfried
15:12:16 [matatk]
subtopic: Web Payment Security Interest Group Charter
15:12:18 [matatk]
- charter: https://www.w3.org/securepay/charter
15:14:55 [janina]
janina: Asks Lionel to look at Charter, we have an interest in specific objectives in the wider ecosystem
15:16:17 [janina]
action: Lionel to review and propose specific a11y liaison due 20230104
15:16:18 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-2335 - Review and propose specific a11y liaison due 20230104 [on Lionel Wolberger - due 2022-12-21].
15:16:30 [janina]
zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from matatk]
15:16:51 [janina]
no items this week
15:16:55 [janina]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 3 closed
15:16:56 [Zakim]
I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:16:56 [Zakim]
4. New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from matatk]
15:16:58 [janina]
zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from matatk]
15:17:09 [matatk]
subtopic: JSON Web Signature 2020
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- tracker: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/JSON_Web_Signature_2020
15:17:45 [janina]
matatk: reads overview
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[group agrees no need to review]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from matatk]
15:19:15 [matatk]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/UI_Events_KeyboardEvent_code_Values
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/UI_Events_KeyboardEvent_key_Values
15:20:08 [janina]
fredrik: Need until January
15:20:18 [janina]
matatk: We definitely need to close this in January
15:20:21 [janina]
Fredrik: OK
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zakim, next item
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agendum 6 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
15:20:55 [janina]
paul: only one item in last mtg
15:21:05 [PaulG]
https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4264
15:21:07 [janina]
paul: css scroll anchoring, and adding values
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paul: default is that scroll position is maintained so the window doesn't jump around
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paul: can be user overwritten
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paul: suggestion is some additional prefer type velues
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paul: believe little for us
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q+
15:22:34 [janina]
paul: goal is to have user intent in viewport; but still give authors a bit of control
15:22:39 [janina]
matatk: sounds like a good thing
15:23:07 [janina]
matatk: wondering about convergence with focus always visible in wcag 2.2? Any interaction with that SC?
15:23:08 [matatk]
ack me
15:24:04 [janina]
paul: feel like no clash
15:24:39 [janina]
paul: not when focus is changing, but whether it moves or stays put when content is loaded around it
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paul: possible there could be implementation issues, but so far don't see a problem
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q?
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zakim, next item
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agendum 7 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from matatk]
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subtopic: adapt
15:27:02 [janina]
matatk: FPWD of AAC registry published yesterday
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https://www.w3.org/TR/aac-registry/
15:28:23 [janina]
matatk: solves the "tower of babel" problem of aac symbol sets, and allows web content to be annotated
15:28:33 [janina]
matatk: notes has an authoring assist tool in prep
15:29:03 [janina]
matatk: this registry spec is normative support for WAI-Adapt Symbols Module 1.0 that we expect will go CR next week
15:29:12 [janina]
matatk: request to transition is in
15:29:28 [janina]
matatk: we're trying for next year, so we will have it this year
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matatk: but regardless, this is a very big deal
15:29:55 [janina]
matatk: notes this has been in the works for over a decade
15:31:35 [janina]
janina: Notes that implementations during CR will give us major press release opportunities, because it brings AAC users onto web
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subtopic: coga
15:32:24 [janina]
janina: Meeting moves to Mondays at 11:00 AM Boston effective 2023
15:32:41 [janina]
matatk: In other words immediately following adapt telecon
15:33:28 [janina]
subtopic: Maturity Model
15:33:34 [janina]
janina: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/
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subtopic: pronunciation
15:36:26 [janina]
matatk: Already announced time of call moving to Mondays at 11:00 AM Boston
15:37:17 [AvneeshSingh]
present+
15:37:27 [janina]
subtopic: rqtf
15:38:42 [janina]
janina: Notes RQTF resuming 4 Jan
15:38:58 [janina]
janina: Special call on 25 Jan for research process considerations WAI-wide
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zakim, next item
15:39:01 [Zakim]
agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from matatk]
15:39:11 [janina]
action-2130?
15:39:11 [trackbot]
action-2130 -- Janina Sajka to Review overview of the coveragejson format https://www.w3.org/tr/covjson-overview/ -- due 2017-06-21 -- CLOSED
15:39:11 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2130
15:39:28 [janina]
subtopic: Epub Review
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janina see above link
15:40:20 [matatk]
Tracking in the wiki for Epub review: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/EPUB_3.3 (which links to the other two EPUB specs)
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15:41:33 [janina]
fredrik: trust Janina's view -- no reason to hold
15:41:46 [janina]
avneesh: Notes January is our next mtg; Up to you
15:42:07 [janina]
fredrik: OK, I'll look through and respond on email
15:46:24 [matatk]
q?
15:46:26 [janina]
janina: Notes 3.3 is current and showstoppers and obvious fixes
15:46:48 [janina]
janina: we have exciting next steps for epub.next as discussed during TPAC last
15:46:53 [janina]
avneesh: Yes
15:47:18 [janina]
subtopic: Digital Accessibility Developer Apprenticship
15:47:36 [Fazio]
scribe+
15:47:38 [matatk]
s/Apprenticship/Apprenticeship/
15:47:40 [Fazio]
Helix Opportunity LLC Digital Accessibility Developer Apprenticeship has been approved by U.S. Dept of Labor and CA Dept of Industrial Relations.
15:47:54 [Fazio]
San Joaquin County Office of Education is providing Local Education Agency oversight, certifying that the program meets requirements of the California Educational Code.
15:48:07 [Fazio]
This program is backed by ongoing federal, and state funding. It operates as a post-secondary education program, with 242 hours of required classroom instruction, administered by lecturers, with assignments, tests, activities, etc. plus a 2,000 hour On Job Learning component.
15:48:23 [Fazio]
We are seeking adjunct faculty to build Lesson Plans, Syllabi, and teach. We are actively seeking employer partners to provide the On Job Learning. For more details contact David Fazio dfazio@helixopp.com
15:48:46 [janina]
janina: aThis is an announcement for the first topic above
15:49:29 [matatk]
subtopic: Review Verifiable Credential Data Integrity
15:49:35 [matatk]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2022Nov/0045.html
15:50:08 [janina]
lionel: have reviewed VC data integrity fpwd
15:50:14 [janina]
lionel: sent to list ...
15:50:30 [janina]
lionel: this is credential implementers
15:50:51 [janina]
lionel: use of credentials is deliberately out of scope
15:51:05 [janina]
lionel: if use is out of scope, is usability out of scope?
15:51:23 [janina]
lionel: propose paragraph
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lionel: Proposes Accessibility Considerations para per his email
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q+
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ack mat
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matatk: find this helpful, and the background helpful
15:53:08 [janina]
matatk: suggest the minor issues just reported on github
15:53:24 [janina]
matatk: We do need CfC on Accessibility Considerations;
15:53:49 [janina]
matatk: this has parallels with WoT; and presenting them to WoT helped get them engaged on those with mfgs
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matatk: we might need to present some examples, if we can, of some a11y issues to justify this a bit more
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q+
15:54:36 [janina]
matatk: believe rqtf may have data already we can copy
15:54:40 [janina]
ack ja
15:57:31 [janina]
janina: proposes CfC in January based on Lionel's proposal, perhaps with an example or two
15:57:41 [janina]
zakim, next item
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agendum 9 -- Other Business -- taken up [from matatk]
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 9 closed
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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10. be done for the year; thank you and well done, all! [from matatk]
15:57:52 [janina]
zakim, next item
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agendum 10 -- be done for the year; thank you and well done, all! -- taken up [from matatk]
15:58:14 [AvneeshSingh]
+1 APA has really achieved a lot. Thank you!
15:58:15 [janina]
matatk: Thanks everyone for lots of good work in the year. We've done some marvelous work, and quite a lot of it.
15:58:28 [Lionel]
+1 to the amazing year, amazing work, thanks to the chairs!
15:58:29 [janina]
matatk: Enjoy the hollidays and we look forward to 2023!
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zakim, bye
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