13:00:40 RRSAgent has joined #wot-pf 13:00:40 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-irc 13:00:47 meeting: WoT Testfest - Day 1 13:01:03 Mizushima has joined #wot-pf 13:01:10 McCool has joined #wot-pf 13:01:31 chair: McCool 13:01:55 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:02:46 Fady has joined #wot-pf 13:02:51 mlagally has joined #wot-pf 13:02:53 ktoumura has joined #wot-pf 13:03:19 zakim, who is on the call? 13:03:19 Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:03:21 present+ Fady_Salama 13:07:53 topic: Minutes Review 13:08:04 topic: Daniel_Peintner 13:08:20 dape has joined #wot-pf 13:08:20 scribenick: Fady 13:08:28 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/11/30-wot-pf-minutes.html Nov-30 13:08:30 q+ 13:08:43 subtopic: 30 November 2022 Minutes 13:09:43 mmcool: published 13:09:45 ack d 13:10:06 subtopic: 07 December 2022 Minutes 13:10:14 i|Nov-30|subtopic: 30 November 2022 Minutes| 13:10:30 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-pf-minutes.html Dec-7 13:10:35 ryuichi has joined #wot-pf 13:11:01 mmcool: published 13:11:06 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura 13:11:16 topic: Logistics 13:11:36 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_12.12.2022 13:11:46 q+ 13:11:46 mmcool: We will review the instructions and CSV 13:13:08 topic: Publication scheul 13:13:09 cris__ has joined #wot-pf 13:13:22 s/scheul/schedule/ 13:13:29 q+ 13:14:19 present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi 13:14:34 mmcool: Moratorium is from Dec 23 - Jan 2 and the Deadline for publication request is Dec 21 13:15:14 kaz: @@ 13:15:32 topic: Logistics 13:15:41 subtopic: Review Instructions 13:16:14 mmcool: I will walk through the instructions 13:16:39 ... Please make sure your are using the correct values in your CSVs 13:16:58 s/your/you/ 13:17:28 ... for each spec we have particular things you have to do 13:17:31 s/@@/Publication Moratorium means no publication by the Webmaster, while the automatic publication for WDs is available. Also note that the Transition Requests for Architecture, TD and Discovery have been approved, and I'll work with the Webmaster for CR publication (though there is a note on Discovery)| 13:17:32 q+ 13:17:36 ack k 13:17:51 s/)|/)/ 13:17:54 ... one special case is Profiles 13:18:09 s/Logistics/Logistics - revisited/ 13:18:33 q+ 13:18:45 i|Logistics|-> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/465 CR Transition Request for Architecture| 13:18:57 in Profiles and Architecture you put contributions directly in Results folder. Please do not to that with other specs 13:19:12 i|Logistics|-> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/467 CR Transition Request for TD| 13:19:29 s/465/474/ 13:19:50 i|Logistics|-> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/465 CR Transition Request for Discovery| 13:19:59 rrsagent, make log public 13:20:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:20:04 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:20:04 Ege: I realized that we didn't impose a naming for manual CSVs. I made a PR to fix that 13:20:18 mmcool: OK 13:20:31 ... For TD or Profiles? 13:20:40 Ege: Just for TD 13:20:56 s/topic: Daniel_Peintner// 13:21:05 present+ Daniel_Peintner 13:21:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:21:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:21:28 mlagally: I created a PR that fixes broken links to Profile repo 13:21:43 s/subtopic: 30 November 2022 Minutes// 13:21:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:21:44 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:21:54 q? 13:22:01 ack e 13:22:03 ack m 13:22:21 mmcool: *merges PR* 13:23:00 i/Publication Mora/scribenick: kaz/ 13:23:08 i/I will walk/scribenick: Fady/ 13:23:38 mmcool: In Architecture, the CSV file format has changed 13:24:14 ... but old CSV format should not be a problem 13:24:19 s/in Profiles/... in Profiles/ 13:24:22 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:24:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:24:28 ... you can use a tool provided by Ege to see changes 13:24:58 Ege: Yes, I tried the tool with TD and we can discuss specifics when looking at the PR 13:25:04 i|mlagally: I cre|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/493 PR 493 - Update README.md: Adding Profile validation as goal of the testfest| 13:25:56 mmcool: manual.csv in Architecture and Discovery and TD do not have the index 13:26:08 topic: PRs 13:26:20 i|I realized that|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/494 PR 494 - Manualcsv changelog for each implementation| 13:26:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:26:23 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:26:37 mmcool: I will go through them from old to new 13:27:05 i/PR 494/subtopic: PR 494/ 13:27:10 i/493/subtopic: PR 493/ 13:27:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:27:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:28:05 subtopic: PR 409 13:28:24 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/409 PR 409 - Change procedure to include Consumers 13:28:34 mmcool: closed 13:28:53 subtopic: PR 484 13:29:09 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/482 PR 482 - Update processed results 13:29:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:29:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:29:51 mmcool: I see that you updated some things so I will rerun my tools later to merger PR 482 13:30:03 s/merger/merge 13:30:24 mmcool: *merged* 13:30:52 i|I see|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/484 PR 484 - Manual CSVs for TUM implementations| 13:31:05 subtopic: PR 485 13:31:18 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/485 PR 485 - Remove commas from node-wot manual.csv 13:31:34 Ege: You can ignore this. I was trying to remove commas from all CSV files 13:32:16 ... The problem happens when you use Excel to edit the CSV, you remove quotes around strings that have commas 13:32:44 mmcool: I will update the README to warn about this issue 13:32:58 q+ 13:33:20 q+ 13:33:58 ack 13:34:02 s/ack// 13:34:04 ack k 13:34:45 kaz: Removing commas may solve the issue but maybe it would be better too use double quotes 13:35:11 mmcool: I agree with kaz 13:35:49 s/too use double quotes/to use double quotes to show what is the value for the field./ 13:36:12 dape: My PR does not have quotes. I will have to take a look 13:36:31 ack dape 13:36:33 subtopic: PR 487 13:37:23 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/487 PR 487 - Add text direction guess pass to playground 13:37:25 merged 13:37:29 subtopic: PR 488 13:37:46 mmcool: this should solve an assertion, will merge and run the tool 13:37:47 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/488 PR 488 - Adding missing passes for multilanguage 13:37:57 s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/488 PR 488 - Adding missing passes for multilanguage|| 13:38:06 i|this should|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/488 PR 488 - Adding missing passes for multilanguage| 13:38:09 metged 13:38:37 mmcool: This will probably not give us a complete pass but is a step 13:39:19 subtopic: PR 490 13:39:29 mmcool: merged 13:39:37 i|merged|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/490 PR 490 - Update results for 3 (at-risk) security-related assertions in Discovery| 13:39:37 subtopic: PR 492 13:40:25 q+ 13:40:35 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/492 PR 492 - Add fujitsu test results 13:41:50 Ege: Can we change the name of manual.csv to the name of implementation name? 13:42:13 mmcool: It should not be problem for my tooling 13:42:50 Ege: It would be easier for the tooling. We should either stick to all manual or all implentation names 13:44:27 q? 13:44:55 mlagally: I also see that a profile tag being used so please use it as a contribution for profile spec 13:45:37 q+ 13:45:40 ack e 13:45:49 q+ 13:46:04 mmcool: merged 13:46:43 subtopic: PR 494 13:48:46 q? 13:51:26 Ege: I changed the script for running batchValidation to make them use implentation.csv and went through all implementation and generated a changelog for them 13:52:17 mmcool: I see that this is very nice information and I would merge it 13:54:52 kaz: I don't think that we need to generate changelog everyday and see the changelog for this Testfest. Also, I don't think that we need to change every manual.csv to implementation.csv 13:55:53 ack k 13:57:26 mmcool: I think that it is good for flagging stale assertions 13:58:24 kaz: Then we need to tell people that we are still preparing for the testfest and ask for contributions starting from tomorrow 13:58:58 q+ 13:59:02 ack ml 13:59:39 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:59:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 14:00:01 mlagally: I disapprove that we change something in input data from implementors and I don't think that we should use the time for looking at changes for just running tools that are not necessary in nature 14:01:07 mmcool: So I ask Ege to revert the name changes to manual.csv files and and we are not going to merge the PR yet 14:01:36 kaz: so we don't need to change the CSV file's name from manual.csv to implementation-name.csv, but we should still clarify what we want Matsukura-san to do 14:01:41 subtopic: PR 496 14:02:06 i/496/mmcool: Matsukura-san, can you update the batch validation file quickly?/ 14:02:14 i/496/Matsukura: ok/ 14:02:25 i/so we don't/scribenick: kaz/ 14:02:29 scribenick: Fady 14:02:47 mmcool: I am ok with merging this as long as keep in mind that this if meant for future submissions 14:02:55 q+ 14:03:08 mmcool: *merged* 14:03:25 i|I am ok|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/496 PR 496 - Improve CSV contribution instructions 14:03:26 ack k 14:03:50 q+ 14:03:52 ack e 14:04:43 +q 14:05:34 ack 14:05:38 s/ack// 14:05:40 ack f 14:05:40 ack f 14:05:43 ack k 14:06:30 kaz: if needed, we should explain the mechanism (and what we want people to do) around PR 494 within the README 14:07:38 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2022.12.Online README for 2022.12.Online 14:08:18 mmcool: the README has been updated, and the approach around PR 494 to be applied to the future Testfest 14:08:21 [adjourned] 14:08:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:08:27 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/12-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 16:34:26 Zakim has left #wot-pf