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14:20:20 <trackbot> Meeting: WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference
14:20:20 <trackbot> Date: 28 November 2022
14:20:42 <sharon> zakim, clear agenda
14:20:42 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:21:04 <sharon> chair: sharon
14:23:31 <sharon> agenda+ CFC launch
14:23:41 <sharon> agenda+ Adapt Symbols Module Status
14:23:53 <sharon> agenda+ Readiness of Explainers
14:25:00 <sharon> agenda+ BCI Registry Specification
14:25:16 <sharon> agenda+ Due Diligence regarding our attributes vs existing alternatives  (CSS Media Queries, @autocomplete, microformats, ePub, etc.)
14:26:01 <sharon> TAG Follow-up (Janina)
14:26:12 <sharon> agenda+ How do we show TAG the Next billion users. (Research related to AAC)
14:26:34 <sharon> agenda+ Recruiting
14:26:47 <sharon> agenda+ Review open issues
14:26:58 <sharon> agenda+ Symbol Module Implementations Status, focus on new candidates
14:27:17 <sharon> agenda+ Test to show rendering symbols do not 'break' existing pages
14:27:33 <sharon> agenda?
14:52:52 <janina> present+
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15:02:23 <Roy> present+
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15:04:46 <CharlesL> present+
15:06:18 <becky> present+
15:08:08 <becky> scribe: becky
15:08:23 <becky> zakim, take up item 4
15:08:24 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- BCI Registry Specification -- taken up [from sharon]
15:08:49 <janina> https://w3c.github.io/adapt-registry/#symbols-entry-requirements
15:09:03 <becky> janina: we have a document written mostly by Roy and Michael with some updates from Janina (see above link)
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15:09:36 <becky> janina: please review above, if document and edits make sense, are we ready to ask APA for a cfc
15:10:16 <matatk> present+
15:10:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
15:10:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
15:11:01 <becky> roy: I think we need acknowledgement and editors section, I can do that tomorrow and provide snapshot link
15:11:17 <CharlesL> q+
15:11:32 <becky> janina: want to run cfc through midnight Boston time on Dec. 6
15:11:46 <sharon> ack CharlesL
15:12:31 <becky> CharlesL : in section 3 symbol registry, the symbols for regular characters are way to small to be easily read, symbols are okay but characters are not
15:12:59 <becky> sharon : small edit in 2 symbols entry requirements - reads akwardly.
15:13:20 <becky> Janina: I will fix
15:13:28 <sharon> q?
15:13:31 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
15:13:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/28-adapt-minutes.html matatk
15:14:12 <janina> https://w3c.github.io/adapt-registry/#symbols-entry-requirements
15:14:50 <janina> https://w3c.github.io/adapt-registry/#symbols-entry-requirements
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15:15:12 <janina> https://w3c.github.io/adapt-registry/#symbols-entry-requirements
15:15:39 <becky> sharon: group is reviewing about link for edits or comments
15:16:39 <mike_beganyi> present+
15:16:47 <becky> CharlesL : There is a reference to content module that should be symbols module
15:17:12 <becky> Roy: I can fix repository name and links
15:19:32 <becky> matatk :  should we be mentioning the adapt spec in this registry document
15:19:53 <becky> janina:  focus is on getting this published with clean up of minor issues after
15:20:49 <becky> matatk : I will update the example that Becky was going to address ( update to id in example)
15:21:37 <becky> matatk : A linked page to Bliss is just a basic page asking for donations rather than a technical page.
15:22:08 <becky> roy: need to get Bliss folks to give us a process for adding new symbols
15:22:33 <becky> janina: agreed with need to document process for updating the registry
15:23:03 <becky> matatk : If we remove the above mentioned link there is no other link to Bliss
15:23:31 <becky> janina: we should ask Bliss for an appropriate link; I will remove the generic link to Bliss
15:26:30 <becky> mike_beganyi : item #2 need a hyphen between English and need
15:26:31 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/2 : fixing typo
15:26:45 <becky> zakim, next item
15:26:45 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- CFC launch -- taken up [from sharon]
15:27:29 <becky> rrsagent, make minutes
15:27:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/28-adapt-minutes.html becky
15:28:27 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/aac-registry
15:28:48 <becky> roy: updated the repository name (see above link)
15:29:08 <Roy> https://w3c.github.io/aac-registry/
15:29:21 <becky> roy: above link is editors draft
15:29:28 <janina> DRAFT RESOLUTION: Wai-Adapt Task Force requests APA conduct a Call for Consensus to publish the WAI-Adapt Registry as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD) https://github.com/w3c/aac-registry
15:31:13 <janina> +1
15:31:37 <becky> sharon : please vote on this draft resolution
15:32:02 <CharlesL> +1
15:32:03 <matatk> +1
15:32:05 <mike_beganyi> +1
15:32:08 <sharon> +1
15:32:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> +1
15:32:38 <Roy> +1
15:32:40 <becky> becky+1
15:32:47 <becky> RESOLUTION: WAI-Adapt Task Force requests APA conduct a Call for Consensus to publish the WAI-Adapt Registry as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD) https://github.com/w3c/aac-registry
15:32:58 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
15:32:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/28-adapt-minutes.html matatk
15:33:18 <becky> zakim, next item
15:33:18 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Adapt Symbols Module Status -- taken up [from sharon]
15:34:37 <becky> janina: I think we have a few more tweaks; We voted on taking registry to cfc is so our Adapt Symbols module can reference it
15:35:36 <becky> janina: I will send an email to Tag to explain our changes based on their request;
15:36:24 <becky> janina: have a few more tweaks to the CR draft before going to CfC
15:36:34 <becky> zakim, next item
15:36:34 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Readiness of Explainers -- taken up [from sharon]
15:37:45 <becky> janina: explainer fixes are important but not critical.  We are not creating a separate explainer for TAG unless required.
15:37:53 <becky> zakim, close this item
15:37:53 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
15:37:54 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:37:54 <Zakim> 5. Due Diligence regarding our attributes vs existing alternatives  (CSS Media Queries, @autocomplete, microformats, ePub, etc.) [from sharon]
15:38:09 <becky> zakim, next item
15:38:09 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Due Diligence regarding our attributes vs existing alternatives  (CSS Media Queries, @autocomplete, microformats, ePub, etc.) -- taken up [from sharon]
15:38:44 <becky> matatk : last week we discussed this a bit, specifically the rel attribute. See last week's minutes for details
15:42:58 <matatk> ARIA DPUB module, adds extra roles: https://www.w3.org/TR/dpub-aria-1.1/
15:43:12 <janina> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
15:43:15 <becky> CharlesL : DPUB aria roles has roles for different parts of books, some can be used on the web as well - example is TOC or bibliography.  EPUB has schema.org metadata for accessibility
15:43:46 <matatk> e.g. doc-introduction, ...
15:44:30 <becky> matatk : the dpub module is an example of having a separate spec to the parent one -but is still in W3C space
15:45:45 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/TR/epub-a11y-11/#sec-disc-package is the W3C spec, which links to the features list: https://schema.org/accessibilityFeature
15:45:54 <becky> CharlesL : values for different accessibility features are not regulated anywhere but we created a W3C taskforce to create a document and process for adding new values;
15:46:17 <becky> CharlesL : So there is a schema.org list of values and this other W3C document for further discussion
15:47:01 <becky> matatk : Seems that have brought more of the schema.org into the W3C
15:47:57 <becky> CharlesL : values are organic, as they get used and adopted, crawlers find them and they get added into schema.org. But, DPUB group wanted a more formal process for adding, updating, correcting
15:48:46 <CharlesL> Here is our GitHub repo on this: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-discov-vocab/issues
15:49:18 <becky> matatk : The microformats and rel attribute is similar; Anyone can add to the table but there is no guaranteed for support by browsers. So, am interested in any process available to make certain the new values are vetted.
15:49:45 <CharlesL> https://w3c.github.io/a11y-discov-vocab/
15:50:16 <becky> matatk : group needs to ponder this question. Is the process used by DPUB something we can adopt or do we need a different process or no formal W3C process at all?
15:50:31 <becky> rrsagent, make minutes
15:50:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/28-adapt-minutes.html becky
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