13:04:12 RRSAgent has joined #wot 13:04:12 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/11/23-wot-irc 13:04:31 meeting: WoT-IG/WG 13:04:40 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#23_November_2022 13:05:16 ktoumura has joined #wot 13:05:56 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally 13:06:18 chair: McCool/Sebastian 13:07:26 sebastian_ has joined #wot 13:07:39 scribenick: Ege 13:08:02 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:08:28 Mizushima has joined #wot 13:08:46 topic: Minutes Review 13:09:18 mlagally_ has joined #wot 13:09:24 q+ 13:09:27 mm: let's talk about the profile testing in the testing call 13:09:47 ack k 13:10:48 mm: I intend to work on the societal impact questionnaire 13:11:27 q? 13:11:52 q? 13:11:52 mm: any changes? 13:12:55 Topic: IIWOT Conference 13:13:09 mm: I cannot travel in person, most probably 13:13:22 q+ 13:13:31 mm: the rest of the conference is not very interesting 13:14:55 ek: you can motivate the trip since it is with CES at the same time 13:15:28 ... since matter will be shown there 13:15:44 mm: also regarding matter, the devices and sensors group is talking with matter about second display 13:16:02 q? 13:16:06 ack e 13:16:06 ack e 13:16:19 mm: we can also reach out to them 13:16:22 ek: how can we do it? 13:16:25 s/matter/Matter/ 13:16:32 s/matter/Matter/ 13:16:51 q+ 13:17:25 q+ 13:18:29 ack s 13:18:49 ack k 13:18:58 q+ 13:19:15 q- 13:19:19 sk: my personal opinion is to concentrate on our activity inside our CR period 13:19:25 kaz: I agree with it 13:19:49 i/kaz:/mm: will respond to the Chair explaining our difficult situation/ 13:19:59 s/will/scribenick: kaz/ 13:20:03 scribenick: Ege 13:20:11 topic: Updates 13:20:19 i/Minutes Review/scribenick: Ege/ 13:20:27 mm: testfest should be until 15th of December since Kaz is not available 13:20:58 s/Updates/Cancellations and updates/ 13:21:08 mm: marketing will be 30 mins only and the chairs and team contact will join once a month 13:21:09 q+ 13:21:41 ack k 13:22:40 kaz: regarding the Testfest, we should concentrate on checking the results and actual tests should be done before the Testfest itself. 13:22:46 i/regar/scribenick: kaz/ 13:22:52 scribenick: Ege 13:23:09 rrsagent, make log public 13:23:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:23:16 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/23-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:23:53 mm: ege did you update the marketing calendar? 13:24:01 s/ege did/Ege, did/ 13:24:11 ek: sorry I forgot, I will do it 13:25:30 mm: we should go to CR as efficiently as possible 13:25:51 q+ 13:26:28 mm: W3M prefers the charter to start right after 13:27:15 mm: we can extend the current one a little bit 13:28:10 mm: there are also delays due to the transition 13:29:27 mm: even if we finish draft, we still need 2 week review period 13:29:34 kaz: we need to see our progress and delay every day and every week, and have to think about whether we need further extension or not in early January 13:29:48 i/we need/scribenick: kaz/ 13:29:53 scribenick: Ege 13:29:55 q+ 13:29:57 ack ml 13:29:57 ml: do we know about a deadline for the transition deadline 13:30:07 mm: MIT said they want it by end of the year 13:31:08 ml: are there any plans to do a live workshop? 13:31:10 ryuichi has joined #wot 13:31:44 q? 13:32:06 sk: Siemens can host it but beginning of next year might be too early 13:34:01 kaz: we should not mix the topics, we are discussing about CR delays, new charter, new testfest 13:34:29 s/about // 13:35:07 s/, new testfest/ and potential f2f meeting at once/ 13:36:07 subtopic: Discovery CR Transition Request 13:36:16 s/at once/at once. However, we should concentrate on the CR transition now, and I really would like to ask you all to manage the progress and how long it would take for us to reach the REC stage./ 13:36:45 i/subtopic/topic: Publications/ 13:37:08 mm: we have some issue tracker issues 13:37:13 subtopic: TD Transition Request 13:37:34 mm: I see issues in the issue tracker 13:37:45 sk: they are resolved but the internationalization group did not close the issues 13:37:47 i|we have some|-> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/465 CR Transition Request for WoT Discovery| 13:38:39 mm: also, they have to change the status 13:39:55 i|I see issues|-> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/467 CR Transition Request for WoT Thing Description 1.1| 13:40:18 i|I see issues|-> https://www.w3.org/PM/horizontal/review.html?shortname=wot-thing-description Review comment tracker for TD| 13:40:41 sk: can we remove the label? 13:40:45 mm: a bot will add it back 13:41:01 q? 13:41:16 ack k 13:41:30 kaz: we need to get confirmation by the wide review groups 13:41:56 mjk has joined #wot 13:42:37 mm: we should do our best to resolve the wide review issues 13:44:10 i/we need/scribenick: kaz/ 13:44:18 i/we should/scribenick: Ege/ 13:44:40 mm: I have merged some new results for TD from Ege 13:46:55 mm: we should talk about the profile testing 13:47:11 i/we should/subtopic: Profile/ 13:47:16 ml: I cannot attend the testing call but everything is in the profile repo 13:47:22 q+ 13:48:05 zakim, who is on the call? 13:48:05 Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:48:16 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura 13:48:35 mm: I will probably copy the results to testing 13:49:53 ml: let's not move things without discussing 13:50:38 ack k 13:51:47 kaz: let's talk about the testfest in the remaining time of this call 13:52:15 s/let's/Given Lagally is not available for the Testing call after this call, let's/ 13:52:30 s/testfest/Testfest logistics quickly/ 13:54:45 mm: in the meantime, we should check for conflicts with other clals 13:55:11 s/clals/calls/ 13:55:36 q+ 13:56:26 subtopic: OPCUA Liaison 13:56:50 i/OPC/topic: New WG Charter/ 13:56:56 mm: we should wait for the legal entity 13:57:28 sk: I am talking once in a while with them but the ball is on us 13:58:55 kaz: @@@ 13:59:09 q? 13:59:12 q- 13:59:13 q+ 14:00:50 ack k 14:02:06 s/@@@/Given this is part of the New WG Charter topic, we need to think about how to describe expected liaisons for actual WoT deployment in general within the new WG Charter including OPC UA./ 14:02:13 i/kaz:/scribenick: kaz/ 14:02:46 mm: ege please open an issue in marketing 14:02:55 ek: ok 14:03:18 i/ege/topic: Usage of the W3C WoT Twitter account/ 14:03:22 kaz: @@@ 14:03:59 s/@@@/For that purpose, please clarify why we need to do so/ 14:04:01 q+ 14:04:28 I need to go 14:06:24 s/to do so/to do so, and also describe the Pros and Cons for that direction./ 14:07:01 s/do so/let the WoT CG use the same Twitter account of the WoT IG/ 14:09:34 s|for that direction|for that direction. If we as the whole WoT IG really want to share the official Twitter account with the WoT CG, I think we need to talk with the Project Management Team and the MarComm Team about that idea./ 14:09:47 s/I need to go// 14:09:55 [adjourned] 14:09:59 rrsagent, make log public 14:10:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:10:04 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/23-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:13:31 i/ege please open/scribenick: Ege/ 14:13:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:13:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/23-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:14:04 i/For that purpose/scribenick: kaz/ 14:14:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:14:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/23-wot-minutes.html kaz 15:01:29 Mizushima has left #wot 15:51:50 stevelee has joined #wot 15:57:01 stevelee has joined #wot 16:32:15 Zakim has left #wot