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15:58:58 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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16:00:06 <janina> Chair: Sheri_b-h
16:00:28 <janina> Meeting: Maturity Model Subgroup
16:00:41 <janina> Date: 16 Nov 2022
16:00:58 <janina> regrets: Lionel, David
16:01:54 <janina> present+
16:02:07 <janina> scribe: janina
16:03:17 <janina> topic: Issue 19 Reference to case change
16:04:55 <Sheri_B-H> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/19
16:06:37 <janina> janina: Proposes allowing editors to do basic editing without group review
16:06:43 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: Proposal that punctuation, typos, missing words that don't change meaning, verb tense can be fixed by anyone without going through group review
16:07:04 <janina> +1
16:07:16 <Sheri_B-H> +1
16:07:48 <jlkline> +1
16:07:52 <janina> +1 from Jake on mobile
16:08:14 <janina> janina: We note not everyone is here, so if you're reading minutes and you disagree, speak up!
16:08:40 <Sheri_B-H> Jake: will go through all of his grammer/word/typo issues, fix them directly, and close the issues
16:09:14 <janina> present+ jake
16:10:18 <Sheri_B-H> Jake to go through all of his grammar/word/typo issues in github, fix them directly, and close the issues
16:11:11 <Sheri_B-H> due two weeks
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16:11:51 <janina> zakim, who's here?
16:11:51 <Zakim> Present: present, Sheri_B-H, janina, jake
16:11:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, Sheri_B-H, jlkline, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, trackbot, jspellman
16:12:13 <janina> present+ jake
16:12:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> +1 to the proposal for typo/punctuation etc changes
16:12:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
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16:13:56 <janina> zakim, who's here?
16:13:56 <Zakim> Present: present, Sheri_B-H, janina, jake, Lionel_Wolberger
16:13:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see JakeAbma_, Lionel_Wolberger, Sheri_B-H, jlkline, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, trackbot, jspellman
16:13:59 <JakeAbma_> Present+
16:14:34 <Sheri_B-H> JakeAbma_ to go through all of his grammar/word/typo issues in github, fix them directly, and close the issues
16:14:37 <Sheri_B-H> due two weeks
16:14:56 <Sheri_B-H> JakeAbma_ to go through all of his grammar/word/typo issues in github, fix them directly, and close the issues due two weeks
16:16:19 <Sheri_B-H> 19, 34, 33, and 31 can be fixed directly by Jake
16:16:48 <Sheri_B-H> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/28
16:17:53 <janina> topic: Issue 28 Proposed "some models researched" rather than "6 models researched"
16:17:56 <janina> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/28
16:20:48 <janina> sheri: any objections to this change? or to adding the proposed appendix?
16:21:00 <janina> jeff: "several popular or perhaps current models?"
16:21:09 <janina> lionel: I like that
16:21:33 <janina> jeff: "a sampling of current models"
16:21:51 <janina> jake: may not be current any longer
16:23:24 <Sheri_B-H> Lionel: multiple models known at the time that this specification began being drafted were reviewed.
16:23:24 <janina> lionel: multiple models known at the time of drafting this document
16:23:41 <Sheri_B-H> Janina's is the one we agreed to
16:24:00 <janina> sheri: someone needs to create the appendix with the pointers?
16:24:03 <janina> sheri: I can
16:24:39 <janina> group approves
16:24:46 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri to assigne 28 to herself and fix per agreement
16:25:11 <janina> topic: issue 21 flow of model needs a little love
16:25:12 <janina> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/21
16:25:45 <janina> sheri: reads current lang
16:26:01 <janina> sheri: agree it's a bit awkward language
16:26:20 <janina> sheri: reads jake's edit
16:28:05 <janina> sheri: identifying --
16:29:41 <janina> jeff: assess?
16:29:54 <janina> sheri: in previous, could change to review, then use assess here
16:31:11 <Sheri_B-H> Review the current effectiveness of a person, group, or an organization; Assess what capabilities they have; Prioritize what needs to be accomplished next; Improve performance.
16:31:16 <janina> jeff: [wordsmithing in progress]
16:31:27 <janina> sheri: would be better to see proposals here in IRC
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16:31:48 <janina> sheri: likes the chain of action verbs
16:32:02 <janina> s/chain/sequence/
16:32:09 <janina> lionel: agrees that they make a nice flow
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16:34:34 <jlkline> Assesses the current effectiveness of a group within an organization or the organization it total; Supports organizational capabilities plans for next steps and Improve performance.
16:36:31 <jlkline> Assesses the current effectiveness and capabilities  of a group within an organization or the organization in total; Supports organizational plans for next steps and Improve performance.
16:37:28 <Sheri_B-H> Review the current effectiveness of an organizational entity; Assess what capabilities they have; Prioritize what needs to be accomplished next; Improve performance.
16:38:14 <jlkline> Assesses the current effectiveness and capabilities  of an entity within an organization or the whole organization; Supports organizational plans for next steps to Improve performance.
16:39:05 <Sheri_B-H> Assesses the current effectiveness and capabilities of an organizational entity; Supports plans for next steps to Improve performance.
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16:41:42 <janina> janina: concerned to have organization's units in the definition of organization
16:42:00 <Sheri_B-H_> solution for 21: Fix the definition of organization to include subunits
16:42:08 <janina> sheri: to include subunits
16:42:08 <Sheri_B-H_> link the use of the word organization to the definition
16:42:15 <Sheri_B-H_> use Jeff's final proposed language
16:42:30 <janina> call for objections ...
16:43:11 <janina> group agrees
16:45:54 <Sheri_B-H_> Action Jjlkline to own changes for item 21, work with another team member (MaryJo?) to learn github commands due two weeks
16:45:54 <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel.
16:47:34 <Sheri_B-H_> No meeting next week, Thanksgiving Wednesday
16:47:53 <Sheri_B-H_> hearing no other business, meeting is adjurned
16:47:55 <janina> topic: Next meeting 30 November
16:48:02 <janina> Happy Thanksgiving, U.S.!
16:48:28 <Sheri_B-H_> Action David to pull next set of items for 30 Nov agenda
16:48:28 <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel.
16:48:30 <janina> sheri: I'll ask David to construct the next set of github issues for the agenda
16:48:37 <janina> zakim, bye
16:48:37 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been present, Sheri_B-H, janina, jake, Lionel_Wolberger, JakeAbma_
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16:48:42 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
16:48:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/16-maturity-minutes.html janina
16:50:55 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:50:55 <RRSAgent> I see no action items