IRC log of ixml on 2022-11-15

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15:02:13 [norm]
:-)
15:02:39 [cmsmcq]
Meeting: ixml community group
15:03:31 [cmsmcq]
Chair: Steven Pemberton
15:03:53 [tovey-walsh]
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Nov/0005.html
15:04:56 [cmsmcq]
Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2022/10/11-ixml-minutes
15:10:37 [tovey-walsh]
Can't we have a meeting without Steven?
15:11:45 [cmsmcq]
It's not so much the Stevenness as the knowing-the-password-ness of it
15:11:58 [norm]
Oh, I can setup another link if that's all we need
15:12:39 [norm]
Voila: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/89936484392?pwd=eG5yalBXR2dsaDNJZWlpMnB3SUJDZz09
15:13:00 [cmsmcq]
OK. I'll send email with that to the list, for the record.
15:17:38 [cmsmcq]
Chair: cmsmcq
15:17:50 [norm]
Present: Michael, Norm, Bethan, John
15:17:56 [norm]
Date: 2022-11-15
15:18:56 [cmsmcq]
Action to JL has been done, at least in part.
15:19:11 [cmsmcq]
Reduced Earley items by 40% but gave a 5x speedup.
15:20:17 [norm]
Present: +Joel
15:21:34 [cmsmcq]
Actions to Norm: all done; those that affect normative text awaiting final approval.
15:22:08 [cmsmcq]
Topic: Status of implementations
15:22:34 [cmsmcq]
JL has issued a 1.1 version. There was a bug in quoted-strings in character sets, which has now been fixed.
15:22:54 [cmsmcq]
He also now has a pretty-printer. Used in Steven's tutorial.
15:23:51 [cmsmcq]
Joel's implementation is far enough along to be mentioned on the page.
15:24:18 [cmsmcq]
ACTION: Joel to send details of his implementation to Norm, Norm to put it on the page.
15:25:33 [cmsmcq]
JL noted the ixml-related issue in the QT4 work.
15:25:48 [cmsmcq]
ACTION: msm to suggest additional function signatures if desirable.
15:27:30 [cmsmcq]
Topic: Issue #145 Character class "LC" doesn't match our grammar
15:27:32 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/145 : The Unicode spec allows a character class "LC" that doesn't match our grammar
15:27:43 [cmsmcq]
Change approved; Norm to merge the PR.
15:27:46 [cmsmcq]
PR merged.
15:28:40 [cmsmcq]
Topic: Issue #147 Are control characters allowed in an ixml grammar?
15:28:41 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/147 : Are control characters allowed in an ixml grammar?
15:29:33 [mjoel]
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15:30:19 [cmsmcq]
RESOLVED: approve PR #160 and merge Norm's proposal into 1.0++.
15:30:24 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/160 : Forbid C0 and C1 control characters in strings
15:31:03 [cmsmcq]
Norm requests an agenda item for December: should C0/C1 change be an erratum for 1.0?
15:31:30 [cmsmcq]
Topic: Issue #147 Are control characters allowed in an ixml grammar?
15:31:32 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/147 : Are control characters allowed in an ixml grammar?
15:31:39 [cmsmcq]
Topic: Issue #138 Home page links to ixml.xml and ixml.ixml
15:31:40 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/138 : Arrange for the link to 'ixml.xml' on the home page to be served such that it'll be downloaded not displayed in the browser
15:33:28 [cmsmcq]
Norm reported on Pull Requests #168 and #169 and requested they be approved.
15:35:00 [cmsmcq]
RESOLVED: To approve the relevant changes and ask Norm to merge the PRs
15:35:48 [cmsmcq]
Topic: Pull request #146 description of EBNF to BNF translation
15:35:55 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/146 : First draft of EBNF to BNF conversion document
15:36:30 [cmsmcq]
Norm reports that it needs another update before publication.
15:36:51 [cmsmcq]
ACTION: Norm to update free-standing document on EBNF to BNF translation (PR #146)
15:36:52 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/146 : First draft of EBNF to BNF conversion document
15:37:52 [cmsmcq]
Topic: Issue #139 Sample grammars for IRIs and URIs
15:37:53 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/139 : https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/master/samples/URI/rfc-3987.ixml
15:38:00 [cmsmcq]
Postponed until SP is here to make his case.
15:38:11 [cmsmcq]
Topic: Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml grammars
15:38:12 [Github]
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/137 : We should document the XML tag set that results from parsing an ixml grammar with the ixml specification grammar
15:46:16 [mjoel]
On https://www.w3.org/community/ixml/ it states that meetings are at 14:00 UTC. Is the new time fixed at 15:00? If so we should update that page. Also, it mentions Google Meet. Is today's Zoom a one-shot deal?
15:46:36 [cmsmcq]
ACTION: Norm to prototype an alphabetic reference list of elements in the vxml vocabulary, in XHTML, to serve as a basis for discussion.
15:47:42 [norm]
The zoom is a one-off, only Steven could start the Google meet
15:56:40 [cmsmcq]
Topic: next meeting
15:57:21 [cmsmcq]
ACTION: SP to edit group page to say we meet at 15:00 UTC (during the winter, at least).
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Present: Joel Dubinko, John Lumley, Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Bethan Tovey-Walsh, Norm Tovey-Walsh
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16:01:45 [mjoel]
thank you, all