15:41:51 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #maturity
15:41:51 <RRSAgent> logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/11/09-maturity-irc
15:41:52 <Zakim> inviting RRSAgent
15:41:53 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
15:41:54 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
15:42:10 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model
15:42:21 <Fazio> chair: Fazio
15:42:42 <Fazio> agenda+ Group Github issues
15:43:03 <Fazio> agenda+ New Business
15:43:11 <Fazio> present+
15:47:49 <nadine> nadine has joined #maturity
15:51:53 <janina> janina has joined #maturity
15:57:46 <janina> zakim, who's here?
15:57:46 <Zakim> Present: Fazio, nadine, sheri_b-h, janina, jlkline, maryjom, Lionel_Wolberger, JakeAbma, kline, Lionel_Wolberger_, CharlesL, present, Fazio_, Fazio__
15:57:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, nadine, RRSAgent, Fazio, trackbot, jspellman, Zakim
15:58:12 <janina> zakim, clear
15:58:12 <Zakim> I don't understand 'clear', janina
15:58:18 <janina> zakim, ?
15:58:18 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, janina.
15:58:24 <janina> zakim, help
15:58:24 <Zakim> Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
15:58:26 <Zakim> Some of the commands I know are:
15:58:26 <Zakim>  xxx is yyy       - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
15:58:26 <Zakim>                     if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
15:58:26 <Zakim>  xxx may be yyy   - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
15:58:27 <Zakim>  I am xxx         - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
15:58:27 <Zakim>  xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
15:58:27 <Zakim>  xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
15:58:27 <Zakim>  who's here?      - lists the participants on the phone
15:58:28 <Zakim>  who's muted?     - lists the participants who are muted
15:58:28 <Zakim>  mute xxx         - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
15:58:28 <Zakim>  unmute xxx       - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
15:58:28 <Zakim>  is xxx here?     - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
15:58:28 <Zakim>  list conferences - reports the active conferences
15:58:29 <Zakim>  this is xxx      - associates this channel with conference xxx
15:58:29 <Zakim>  excuse us        - disconnects from the irc channel
15:58:29 <Zakim> I last learned something new on $Date: 2020/12/31 21:20:53 $
15:59:18 <janina> zakim, bye
15:59:18 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, nadine, sheri_b-h, janina, jlkline, maryjom, Lionel_Wolberger, JakeAbma, kline, Lionel_Wolberger_, CharlesL, present,
15:59:18 <Zakim> Zakim has left #maturity
15:59:21 <Zakim> ... Fazio_, Fazio__
15:59:21 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #maturity
16:02:14 <jlkline> jlkline has joined #maturity
16:02:23 <jlkline> Present+
16:02:35 <nadine> present+
16:06:43 <janina> present+
16:06:56 <janina> Meeting: Maturity Model
16:07:02 <janina> Date: 09 Nov 2022
16:07:26 <janina> Chair: Fazio
16:07:51 <bpoday_> bpoday_ has joined #maturity
16:07:54 <janina> rrsagent, make log public
16:08:24 <Fazio> scribe: nadine
16:08:34 <Fazio> Scribe+ Nadine
16:09:16 <janina> topic: group github issues
16:10:47 <janina> subtopic: issue 146: Each sheet shoudl track each dept answered
16:11:18 <Fazio> Maturity Git: https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model
16:13:42 <nadine> janina: organizations want to do that by department, do we need a field for organization unit?
16:14:45 <nadine> jlkline: date it was done, who did it
16:15:34 <nadine> janina: new issue for tracking mechanisms we need (legal entity departments or sub units) if user want to break it down to departments
16:15:55 <nadine> jlkline: I will open a new issue
16:16:07 <nadine> janina: we close this issue
16:17:54 <nadine> bpoday_: there is so much variance in organizations and departments and business units, they can overlap
16:18:05 <Fazio> q?
16:18:56 <nadine> jlkline: the model is intended to measure the entire organization. For each dimension there should be one answer for each organization, because they are so different
16:19:16 <nadine> jlkline: organizations should do it on their own
16:20:02 <nadine> janina: we should help them to build a tree and to track, who is responsible
16:20:19 <nadine> janina: we should give them the flexibility
16:21:09 <nadine> bpoday_: each business unit could have an other maturity for the dimensions
16:23:04 <nadine> jlkline: keep it simple, maybe just have a text in the beginning
16:23:54 <nadine> bpoday_: maybe best practices for very big organizations?
16:24:14 <nadine> Fazio: thats why we want organizations to test it
16:25:40 <nadine> janina: we try to show where there are gaps with the maturity model, but if there is no responsible person for accessibility, than you need the maturity model
16:26:31 <nadine> Fazio: if we can implement something for tracking that would be good
16:27:00 <nadine> jlkline: adding some fields for tracking would be good
16:27:33 <nadine> janina: we close this issue and Jeff will open a new issue for it and refer to it
16:28:34 <Fazio> Issue 146 closed with comment: We will open a new issue about capturing meta data that encompasses this issue. Thank you
16:28:34 <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel.
16:30:02 <Fazio> subtopic: Issue 147 Name of the Administrator of the Model
16:38:17 <nadine> janina: more input for meta data tracking
16:38:40 <nadine> Fazio: same as issue 146
16:38:54 <nadine> Fazio: open new issue and close this one
16:39:29 <Fazio> Issue closed with comment: Similar to issue 146 about meta data. We will open a new issue to address 146, and 147
16:39:29 <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel.
16:40:28 <nadine> subtopic: issue 145 Linking would make it easier to use
16:40:52 <Fazio> subtopic: Issue 143 communities of practice. Question, communities we serve
16:42:52 <nadine> Fazio: what is the context of the issue?
16:43:33 <nadine> Fazio: revisit it for more context
16:44:17 <Fazio> Iss 143 editorial We need more context. Will revisit when Charles is present to elaborate
16:45:14 <Fazio> subtopic: Issue 145 Linking would make it easier to use
16:46:38 <nadine> nadine: Charles just copied our minutes
16:47:04 <nadine> Fazio: we need more context
16:47:26 <nadine> janina: we should continue with issues not from Charles and handle his issues, when he is here
16:48:09 <Fazio> New Rule issues from group members that file issues will be addressed only when those members are present
16:50:59 <nadine> jake: should we first comment on github or talk about it directly?
16:51:21 <nadine> janina: first on github is better and than we can go through it faster
16:52:21 <nadine> Fazio: I look at the issues which ones are fast
16:53:44 <nadine> Fazio: and send a short agenda
16:54:13 <nadine> janina: Jake can we organize your issues before the meeting?
16:54:47 <nadine> jake: can we label issues?
16:54:54 <nadine> Fazio: yes, I can do it
16:55:39 <Fazio> zakim, bye
16:55:39 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jlkline, nadine, janina
16:55:39 <Zakim> Zakim has left #maturity
16:55:52 <Fazio> rrsagent, make minutes
16:55:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/09-maturity-minutes.html Fazio