13:15:53 RRSAgent has joined #wot-pf 13:15:53 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/11/02-wot-pf-irc 13:15:59 meeting: WoT Testing/Plugfest 13:16:23 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, David_Ezell, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:16:33 ktoumura has joined #wot-pf 13:17:24 mlagally_ has joined #wot-pf 13:17:31 McCool_ has joined #wot-pf 13:17:36 Ege has joined #wot-pf 13:19:30 present+ Ege_Korkan 13:21:02 scribenick: kaz 13:21:39 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_02.11.2022 13:21:43 topic: Minutes 13:24:39 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-wot-pf-minutes.html Oct-12 13:24:52 clarification of minutes approval added 13:24:57 and approved 13:25:03 s/minutes/previous/ 13:25:18 topic: Implementation Reports 13:25:42 mm: have updated the Implementation Reports for TD, Architecture and Discovery 13:26:30 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/main/testing/report11.html 13:26:50 s/https/-> https/ 13:26:55 s/html/html TD 1.1/ 13:27:07 https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/main/testing/report11.html 13:27:17 s/https/-> https/ 13:27:20 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/main/testing/report.html 13:27:23 s/html/html Architecture 1.1/ 13:27:30 s/https/-> https/ 13:27:35 s/html/html Discovery/ 13:28:45 mm: copied the template HTML from the ones for the previous RECs 13:29:06 q+ 13:29:21 ... need to capture the testimonials too 13:29:45 ... but wondering about the need 13:29:47 q+ 13:29:49 ack e 13:30:20 ... features are same as assertions 13:31:27 ... my hope is having some blanket descriptions for testimonials 13:33:13 q+ 13:33:41 kaz: having a separate testimonial document would be fine 13:33:55 ... but we still need to describe who provided the results within the IR 13:35:01 mm: having a separate testimonial document would be nice 13:35:46 ... OK with having the self-contained style, though 13:35:47 q? 13:35:49 ack k 13:35:54 ack ml 13:36:08 ml: please show the section 5 again 13:39:10 ... if we look at the columns, can we tell which implementation(s) implemented all the features? 13:39:47 q? 13:40:11 ek: check for TD is stricter 13:40:28 mm: maybe the testing tool doesn't work properly... 13:41:47 s/which implementation(s) implemented all the features?/why we have fails?/ 13:42:02 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/20a66ccef95be67e5848ed51a9656bed9f62e12a/testing/all-TD-implementations.csv 13:42:11 ml: it would make sense to look into the CSV again 13:42:28 q+ 13:43:30 ... the above CSV shows which features implemented by which implementations 13:44:05 mm: let's mention the potential issues 13:44:23 ... probably issues with manual assertions 13:45:31 ... useful to look into the rows of this consolidated CSV 13:46:26 ... having no TDs would cause the "XXXX" field here 13:47:55 kaz: I think it would be better for us to check the rows with 0 results 13:48:06 ... we can share the load by 7 people here 13:48:13 mm: yeah, agree 13:48:28 ml: also wondering about the divergence 13:49:32 mm: sometimes the number of the total field doesn't match the sum because some of the fields are minimum 13:49:54 ... also for the manual assertions, we still many 0 results 13:50:10 ... so Lagally's consolidated CSV should be useful for further check 13:50:19 q? 13:52:19 kaz: would suggest we quickly skim the test results based on the consolidated CSV 13:52:41 ... not during this call, but should do that quickly 13:52:51 mm: can we do that next week? 13:52:54 ml: yeah 13:53:12 ... let's adjust the agenda for that 13:53:29 topic: Next Testfest Logistics 13:53:41 mm: (creates the work area) 13:54:16 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2022.12.Online Testfest/Plugfest 2022.12.Online 13:54:41 mm: (also copies the README.md from the one for the previous Testfest) 13:56:37 ml: (explains his expectation for the next Testfest) 13:56:50 s|Testfest/Plugfest| 13:57:06 s|next Testfest|next Testfest/Plugfest| 13:57:19 q+ 13:58:35 kaz: we should concentrate on Testing for WoT Profiles this time in December 13:59:07 q? 14:00:07 ... also we're getting out of time or today, so I'd suggest we continue the discussion next week 14:00:23 ... and people are encouraged to create Issues and PRs for proposals 14:00:28 mm: yeah 14:00:50 ... I'll merge this README.md as the starting point for that purpose 14:01:04 ack k 14:01:08 [adjourned] 14:01:14 rrsagent, make log public 14:01:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:01:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/02-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 14:01:52 i|adj|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/events/2022.12.Online/README.md template README.md as a starting point 14:01:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:01:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/02-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 15:25:56 chair: McCool 15:25:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:25:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/11/02-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 16:01:11 Zakim has left #wot-pf 18:06:40 kaz has joined #wot-pf