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15:04:09 <dbooth> Meeting: FHIR RDF
15:04:12 <dbooth> Chair: David Booth
15:05:32 <dbooth> Topic: Update on FHIR build process
15:05:54 <dbooth> jim: No progress on the build code.  no update from Grahame yet.
15:06:35 <dbooth> Topic: SPARQL list updater
15:07:25 <dbooth> jim: I updated the SPARQL code.  Seems to work.  Also added another one, with a different filter.  This one looks for predicates that are in the fhir: namespace, and only changes object of those predicates.
15:09:39 <dbooth> dbooth: For performance test, you only need a bunch of data that uses RDF lists, then add in a little FHIR data with lists.
15:10:28 <dbooth> eric: If someone is using this in anger, they'll probably be using an API.
15:10:38 <dbooth> ... GO has lots of things that use lists in OWL.
15:16:14 <dbooth> dbooth: Where should we store these scripts?
15:16:34 <dbooth> ... Could be rdf.html page.  Or github, or a wiki.
15:16:41 <dbooth> rob: Or the THO site
15:17:26 <dbooth> ... THO is the same a FHIR IG -- Implementation Guide.
15:17:34 <dbooth> agenda+ Implemention Guide
15:18:01 <dbooth> rob: Anything you can do in the FHIR spec you can do in THO, in terms of formatting.
15:25:03 <dbooth> AGREED: Keep in on github
15:25:55 <dbooth> eric: Propose to change the page name to owlSafeLists
15:26:40 <dbooth> AGREED: Change page name to owlSafeLists
15:27:10 <dbooth> ACTION: DBooth to make these changes
15:28:08 <dbooth> s/DBooth/Eric/
15:32:50 <dbooth> ACTION: DBooth to finish edits on that page.
15:33:11 <dbooth> Topic: Concept IRIs
15:34:17 <dbooth> gaurav: Should we add some text to rdf.html to say what restrictions should be on IRI stems?
15:35:02 <dbooth> dbooth: Make sense.
15:35:19 <dbooth> ... E.g., don't put in a partial domain name.
15:35:35 <dbooth> eric: Agreed.
15:40:56 <dbooth> rob: Should we add an IRI type?
15:41:27 <dbooth> ... But not (yet) as a FHIR datatype?
15:41:34 <dbooth> dbooth: Sounds good to me.
15:46:18 <dbooth> gaurav: Do we need to worry about NamingSystem at all?  Or should we view this as only being a CodeSystem thing?
15:46:37 <dbooth> rob: Policy is that for every CodeSystem, there is a NamingSystem.
15:48:15 <dbooth> dbooth: And in point 2 we need to add an iri-stem code to NamingSystemIdentifierType
15:48:54 <dbooth> rob: But if we're adding iri-stem, shouldn't we also add an iri code?
15:49:46 <dbooth> dbooth: If there isn't yet a use for it, I generally think it should not be added.
15:51:37 <dbooth> rob: Okay to leave it out, and see if it comes up in discussion.
15:52:19 <dbooth> jim: I don't think we should require the IRI stem to end with a hash or slash.
15:59:04 <dbooth> dbooth: Agreed.
15:59:44 <dbooth> jim: Wonder how people put HPO codes into FHIR.
16:01:03 <dbooth> ACTION: Gaurav to draft text on IRI stems for rdf.html
16:01:38 <dbooth> gaurav: Next step is make a PR for proposing the changes to THO.
16:02:43 <dbooth> dbooth: Next step on updating rdf.html?
16:03:03 <dbooth> rob: Put the proposed changes into the jira ticket, and get it approved.
16:03:26 <dbooth> ... For approval by ITS.
16:04:04 <dbooth> Topic: Implementation Guidelines
16:05:05 <dbooth> eric: What are IGs doing now?  What made CDA super successful was the IG that told you everything you need to write in the health record that did not have a defined structure.  E.g., how to write when someone quit smoking.  Will FHIR IG do that also?
16:05:33 <dbooth> rob: Yes, depends on how far you take it.  Some constraints may be loose, some may be very locked down.  Might take more than one layer to get there.
16:06:02 <dbooth> eric: CDA had one set.  Would every FHIR profile define their own?
16:06:39 <dbooth> rob: Reverse of that.  CDA also had realm specific guides.   CDA also had CCDA for USA, etc.  But Europoe has different ones.
16:06:56 <dbooth> ... In FHIR you can do universal, or a particular realm, etc.
16:07:33 <dbooth> ... But the IG is a container that included profiles, which are almost alwasy part of an IG.
16:07:58 <dbooth> ... An IG typically includes multiple profiles.
16:08:54 <dbooth> ... Profiles are computable constraints.
16:11:31 <dbooth> eric: The point is that if you are going beyond the specificity of what's in a terminology, then you give guidance.
16:12:27 <dbooth> ADJOURNED
16:13:26 <dbooth> i/Should we add some text/https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e_g-sJCCbVIhbBdjoIYTCN4znwCCK2z7E-Oss2VqgrA/edit#heading=h.wch9s83t9l3r
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16:13:59 <dbooth> Present: David Booth, EricP, Rob Hausam, Gaurav Vaidya, Jim Balhoff
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