IRC log of apa on 2022-10-26

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Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 26 October 2022
13:57:11 [matatk]
present+
13:57:32 [matatk]
Chair: Matthew
13:57:33 [matatk]
agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:57:33 [matatk]
agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:57:36 [matatk]
agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:57:39 [matatk]
agenda+ New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:57:41 [matatk]
agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
13:57:44 [matatk]
agenda+ Spec Tracking Wiki Reminder https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review
13:57:47 [matatk]
agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
13:57:50 [matatk]
agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
13:57:52 [matatk]
agenda+ Community Group tracking (heads up)
13:57:55 [matatk]
agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
13:57:57 [matatk]
agenda+ Other Business
13:58:00 [matatk]
agenda+ be done
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13:58:45 [Roy]
agenda?
13:58:57 [matatk]
zakim, clear the agenda
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agenda cleared
13:59:51 [matatk]
Chair: Matthew
13:59:51 [matatk]
agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:59:51 [matatk]
agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:59:54 [matatk]
agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:59:57 [matatk]
agenda+ New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:59:59 [matatk]
agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
14:00:02 [matatk]
agenda+ Spec Tracking Wiki Reminder https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review
14:00:05 [matatk]
agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
14:00:08 [matatk]
agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
14:00:10 [matatk]
agenda+ Community Group tracking (heads up)
14:00:13 [matatk]
agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
14:00:15 [matatk]
agenda+ Other Business
14:00:26 [matatk]
agenda+ be done
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14:01:00 [matatk]
regrets: Becky
14:01:07 [matatk]
regrets+ Gottfried
14:01:09 [niklasegger]
present+
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14:01:14 [matatk]
regrets+ Nadine
14:01:21 [matatk]
regrets+ Alisa
14:01:27 [matatk]
regrets+ Paul
14:01:35 [matatk]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:01:35 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/26-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:02:10 [matatk]
agenda?
14:02:37 [Roy]
present+
14:03:25 [Fredrik]
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14:03:29 [Fredrik]
present+
14:04:38 [Fredrik]
scribe: Fredrik
14:05:02 [Fredrik]
zakim, open next item
14:05:02 [Zakim]
agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
14:05:40 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
14:05:40 [Zakim]
agendum 1 closed
14:05:41 [Zakim]
I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:05:41 [Zakim]
2. New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 [from matatk]
14:05:47 [Fredrik]
zakim, open item 3
14:05:47 [Zakim]
agendum 3 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from matatk]
14:05:55 [Roy]
subtopic: [mediaqueries] Suggestion: "prefers-pointer-location"
14:05:55 [Roy]
- issue: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7872
14:05:55 [Roy]
- tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/141
14:06:10 [Fredrik]
subtopic: Media Queries
14:06:56 [Fredrik]
matatk: I would need to read this a little more and this needs some general consideration. I think we should leave this open for the next week.
14:07:15 [Fredrik]
Roy: Only this one on the tracker.
14:07:22 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
14:07:22 [Zakim]
agendum 3 closed
14:07:23 [Zakim]
I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:07:23 [Zakim]
2. New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 [from matatk]
14:07:28 [Fredrik]
zakim, open next item
14:07:28 [Zakim]
agendum 2 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:07:57 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
14:07:57 [Zakim]
agendum 2 closed
14:07:58 [Zakim]
I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:07:58 [Zakim]
4. New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from matatk]
14:08:00 [Fredrik]
zakim, open item 4
14:08:00 [Zakim]
agendum 4 -- New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from matatk]
14:08:10 [Roy]
subtopic: CSS View Transitions Module Level 1
14:08:10 [Roy]
- spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/css-view-transitions-1/
14:08:10 [Roy]
- tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_View_Transitions_Module_Level_1
14:09:30 [Fredrik]
matatk: I think this is what Chrome just released as Page Transitions. This is definitely CSS and we need Paul's input for this. We should give Paul first refusal on reviewing stuff, but if Paul has already looked it or is happy to then we shouldn't give it to someone alse.
14:10:39 [Roy]
subtopic: Scroll-linked Animations
14:10:40 [Roy]
- spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/scroll-animations-1/
14:10:40 [Roy]
- tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Scroll-linked_Animations
14:11:16 [Roy]
subtopic: Portable Network Graphics (PNG) Specification (Third Edition)
14:11:17 [Roy]
- spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/png-3/
14:11:17 [Roy]
- tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Portable_Network_Graphics_(PNG)_Specification_(Third_Edition)
14:11:18 [Fredrik]
matatk: This seems to be another thing Chrome has also just come out with.
14:11:42 [Fredrik]
matatk: I have a spoiler for this one as well. Steve Lee just tweeted that PNG has animations and EXIF data natively.
14:11:55 [nadine]
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14:11:56 [Fredrik]
matatk: We definitely want to review this.
14:13:16 [Fredrik]
matatk: We definitely want to review this one. It doesn't even have an a11y considerations section.
14:15:08 [Roy]
https://www.w3.org/TR/png-1/
14:16:02 [Fredrik]
matatk: We need to keep a record of it.
14:17:22 [Fredrik]
zakim, open next item
14:17:22 [Zakim]
agendum 5 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from matatk]
14:17:52 [Fredrik]
matatk: A lot to skip here.
14:18:03 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 5 closed
14:18:04 [Zakim]
I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:18:04 [Zakim]
6. Spec Tracking Wiki Reminder https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review [from matatk]
14:18:08 [Fredrik]
zakim, open next item
14:18:08 [Zakim]
agendum 6 -- Spec Tracking Wiki Reminder https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review -- taken up [from matatk]
14:18:19 [matatk]
agenda
14:18:20 [Fredrik]
matatk: No news from me here.
14:18:22 [matatk]
agenda?
14:19:01 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
14:19:01 [Zakim]
agendum 6 closed
14:19:02 [Zakim]
I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:19:02 [Zakim]
7. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from matatk]
14:19:03 [Fredrik]
zakim, open item 8
14:19:03 [Zakim]
agendum 8 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from matatk]
14:19:16 [Fredrik]
subtopic: RQTF
14:19:58 [Fredrik]
Roy: CTAUR is being published as a First Public Workign Draft Note.
14:20:05 [Fredrik]
Roy: Decision has been sent.
14:20:22 [matatk]
Decision on CfC: Publish Collaboration Tools FPWD: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Oct/0023.html
14:20:37 [Fredrik]
Roy: It needs to be published Tuesday or Thursday. I aim to publish on next tuesday.
14:20:39 [matatk]
Also: Re: Draft #2 of Collaboration Tools Editor's Note: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Oct/0014.html
14:20:47 [matatk]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/26-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:20:53 [Fredrik]
Roy: Announcement has been prepared in RQTF.
14:21:08 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 8 closed
14:21:09 [Zakim]
I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:21:09 [Zakim]
7. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from matatk]
14:21:32 [Fredrik]
zakim, open next item
14:21:32 [Zakim]
agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from matatk]
14:21:45 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
14:21:45 [Zakim]
agendum 7 closed
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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:21:46 [Zakim]
9. Community Group tracking (heads up) [from matatk]
14:21:49 [Fredrik]
zakim, open item 9
14:21:49 [Zakim]
agendum 9 -- Community Group tracking (heads up) -- taken up [from matatk]
14:22:32 [Fredrik]
matatk: Becky used to do Community Group activity tracking to make sure we don't miss anything important in the CGs.
14:23:03 [Fredrik]
matatk: CGs are unofficial arms of WAI where we provide forums anyone can join and they do stuff and it may become an official WG at some point.
14:23:14 [Fredrik]
matatk: There are hundreds of CGs with varying degrees of acitivity.
14:23:35 [Fredrik]
matatk: We do have to monitor for things we should be working with the CGs on.
14:23:48 [Fredrik]
matatk: We have been talking about how to do this and there is a method to use to identify groups of interest.
14:24:08 [Fredrik]
matatk: It's partly based ona tool showing the CG activities and partly on intuition.
14:24:30 [Fredrik]
matatk: We'll organize a list of CGs and, with the help of volunteers, we'll go through it and look at the activities.
14:24:53 [Fredrik]
matatk: This is just a heads-up thus far. We'll be going over this again next week.
14:24:56 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
14:24:56 [Zakim]
agendum 9 closed
14:24:57 [Zakim]
I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:24:57 [Zakim]
10. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open [from matatk]
14:25:14 [Fredrik]
zakim, open item 11
14:25:15 [Zakim]
agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from matatk]
14:25:40 [Fredrik]
matatk: Just a reminder: we are rechartering next year and we need to think about that.
14:26:03 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 11 closed
14:26:04 [Zakim]
I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:26:04 [Zakim]
10. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open [from matatk]
14:26:09 [Fredrik]
zakim, open item 12
14:26:09 [Zakim]
agendum 12 -- be done -- taken up [from matatk]
14:26:20 [matatk]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/26-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:26:22 [Fredrik]
matatk: We are done!
14:26:23 [matatk]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/26-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:26:28 [Fredrik]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 12 closed
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:26:29 [Zakim]
10. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open [from matatk]
14:26:32 [Fredrik]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/26-apa-minutes.html Fredrik
14:27:45 [matatk]
regrets+ Janina
14:27:46 [matatk]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/26-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:28:31 [Fredrik]
zakim, make minutes
14:28:33 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'make minutes', Fredrik
14:29:45 [Fredrik]
zakim, help
14:29:45 [Zakim]
Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
14:29:47 [Zakim]
Some of the commands I know are:
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14:30:26 [Fredrik]
rrsagent. make minutes
14:30:52 [Fredrik]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:30:52 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/26-apa-minutes.html Fredrik
14:33:32 [Fredrik]
rrsagent, help
14:43:15 [Fredrik]
zakim, end meeting
14:43:15 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been PaulG, Fazio, janina, Lionel_Wolberger_, Roy, Fredrik, matatk, becky, nadine, Alisa_S, Fazio_, niklasegger
14:43:17 [Zakim]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/26-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:43:20 [Zakim]
I am happy to have been of service, Fredrik; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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14:43:57 [Fredrik]
zakim, bye
14:44:17 [Fredrik]
rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items