IRC log of rqtf on 2022-10-19
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- zakim, clear agenda
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- agenda+ Collaboration Accessibility User requirements.
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- agenda+ Accessibility of digital wallets: exploring the issue.
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
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- chair: Scott_h
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- agenda?
- 12:46:36 [scott_h]
- zakim, clear agenda
- 12:55:35 [janina]
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- zakim, who's here?
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- zakim, start meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
- 12:56:15 [janina]
- Meeting: RQTF Teleconference
- 12:56:21 [janina]
- Date: 19 Oct 2022
- 12:56:26 [janina]
- Chair: Scott
- 12:56:28 [janina]
- agenda?
- 12:57:07 [scott_h]
- agenda+ Collaboration Accessibility User requirements.
- 12:57:20 [scott_h]
- agenda+ Accessibility of digital wallets: exploring the issue.
- 12:57:32 [scott_h]
- agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
- 12:58:43 [janina]
- present+
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- agenda?
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- present+
- 13:02:49 [SteveNoble]
- present+
- 13:02:49 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- present+
- 13:02:55 [scott_h]
- open agendum
- 13:03:02 [SteveNoble]
- scribe: scott_h
- 13:03:12 [SteveNoble]
- scribe: SteveNoble
- 13:03:36 [scott_h]
- open agendum 1
- 13:04:25 [SteveNoble]
- janina: We agreed to issue a CfC - open until Oct 21
- 13:04:54 [SteveNoble]
- janina: We wanted to get this out so we can get comments over our meeting break
- 13:05:46 [Raja_Kushalnagar]
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- 13:07:13 [SteveNoble]
- janina: We want to elicit lots of comments, which is why we are publishing now
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- 13:10:38 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- The text:
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- One known area where feedback is needed and expected is how collaboration tools can support people with cognitive and learning disability.
- 13:10:44 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- The W3C Cognitive and Learning disability taskforce (COGA) is actively reviewing this draft, and is expected to provide feedback for incorporation in a future draft of this document based on their work in this area. An early view of COGA input to this document is available at [URI of wiki page].
- 13:10:46 [AndroUser]
- present+
- 13:10:53 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Oct/0014.html
- 13:11:36 [SteveNoble]
- janina: APA expects consensus, but non unanimous agreement
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- present+
- 13:12:11 [SteveNoble]
- janina: We still don't have many votes at all, and need more positive notes
- 13:13:49 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q+
- 13:15:10 [SteveNoble]
- scott_h: We really need more information for improving the current draft, so I think publishing what we have so far and eliciting more comments is good
- 13:16:32 [SteveNoble]
- Lionel_Wolberger: It doesn't seem as though the feedback thus far is against publishing, just that more comments are needed
- 13:16:59 [SteveNoble]
- janina: That may not be completely true
- 13:18:47 [SteveNoble]
- janina: There are different opinions among some groups as to when documents should be published -- some groups like APA encourage frequent updating of documents
- 13:18:48 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- +1 to Janina's clarifying the different publication philosophies between APA and AGWG.
- 13:20:53 [SteveNoble]
- janina: This is why we encourage prepublication input
- 13:25:22 [SteveNoble]
- janina: AGWG promotes a stricter control philosophy on publication of documents, as opposed to APA; so some conflicts occur at times based on these differing publication philosophy
- 13:26:47 [SteveNoble]
- scott_h: We have found that Google Docs is hard to use in Windows, but better on iOS with VoiceOver
- 13:28:12 [SteveNoble]
- janina: We could create a snapshot in GitHub and replicate that in Google Docs and get comments from both
- 13:29:46 [SteveNoble]
- janina: Some concerns about needing the same structure in Google Docs as we do in GitHub
- 13:30:23 [SteveNoble]
- scott_h: Support looking at the Google Docs snapshot concept as a possibility
- 13:30:35 [scott_h]
- open agendum 2
- 13:30:36 [SteveNoble]
- janina: This seems a reasonable path formward
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- janina: We need to get up to speed on this technology
- 13:31:39 [scott_h]
- present+
- 13:31:47 [SteveNoble]
- janina: We asked where we should start reading
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- janina: have not been given a good starting point so far
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- Lionel_Wolberger: Commercial providers may have requirements that we can review
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- janina: Perhaps we can just try out some of these digital wallets and see what access issues are found
- 13:37:14 [SteveNoble]
- janina: Not only do we want to see how digital wallets are currently implemented, but look at how personal accessibility settings propagate into other environments
- 13:37:43 [Raja_Kushalnagar]
- Do you have a good meta review article on digital wallets?
- 13:38:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- A sample provider of a DID and Verifiable Credential wallet, https://www.dock.io/post/verifiable-credentials
- 13:39:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 13:39:40 [SteveNoble]
- janina: another area is to have it become a provider of documents such as a power of attorney - how to move these from paper documents to accessible digital wallets
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- janina: Question to Raja about background information on having recorded (audio, video) documents counting legally as valid
- 13:42:31 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- +1 to wallet accessibility
- 13:42:43 [SteveNoble]
- Raja_Kushalnagar: Yes...will send out something about this
- 13:42:51 [scott_h]
- open agendum 3
- 13:43:15 [SteveNoble]
- scott_h: Next week is out last actual meeting
- 13:43:31 [janina]
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- 13:43:57 [SteveNoble]
- scott_h: No meetings in November or December
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- scott_h: Starting January 5 we resume the same Wednesday schedule as before
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- 13:45:52 [SteveNoble_]
- scribe: SteveNoble_
- 13:47:23 [SteveNoble_]
- janina: A lot of what we look at is academic research, which is often behind paywalls
- 13:48:35 [SteveNoble_]
- scott_h: I have access to journals, so will continue to be able to access these
- 13:49:43 [SteveNoble_]
- scott_h: It is just mostly that there have not been a lot of articles published which go beyond blindness accessibility issues
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- scott_h: Have confidence in our process thus far
- 13:52:36 [SteveNoble_]
- janina: Another source for background terminology is to look at the FAST docuement
- 13:55:06 [SteveNoble_]
- I also have access to journals, but it is mostly the time issue; but I do hope to have more time in the next few months
- 13:56:47 [scott_h]
- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
- 13:56:47 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been janina, Roy, SteveNoble, Lionel_Wolberger, AndroUser, Joshue108_, scott_h
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/19-rqtf-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see no action items