11:02:49 RRSAgent has joined #wot-marketing 11:02:49 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/10/18-wot-marketing-irc 11:03:08 Ege has joined #wot-marketing 11:03:19 meeting: WoT Marketing 11:06:01 cris_ has joined #wot-marketing 11:06:27 scribenick: Ege 11:06:45 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Cristiano_Aguzzi 11:08:19 Topic: Meeting Minutes 11:09:12 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/09/27-wot-marketing-minutes.html Sep-27 11:10:27 ek: anyting to change? 11:10:42 ek: I am hearing none, minutes approved 11:11:02 topic: Agenda Cleanup 11:11:36 q+ 11:12:00 ek: I have added an archive header and created a file with the previous agendas 11:12:45 kaz: you can create another page 11:15:10 ek: ok I was not aware of that feature, I will do it for next week 11:15:19 ... the proposal in the agenda is not needed in this case 11:16:11 topic: JSON Schema Case Study 11:16:59 ek: they have discussed in their meeting and others from JSON Schema have reviewed it too. It should be published soon 11:17:31 ca: where will it be published? 11:17:37 ek: on their blog page 11:17:57 i|they have|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/329 Issue 329 - JSON Schema Case Study| 11:18:15 topic: PRs 11:18:28 subtopic: PR 351 Discovery Draft Name update 11:18:28 present+ Daniel_Peintner 11:18:31 dape has joined #wot-marketing 11:18:38 +1 for merging :) 11:18:57 ek: I have reviewed it, we can merge. It is a trivial change 11:19:03 i|merging|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/351 PR 351 - update infos for Discovery publication| 11:19:10 q+ 11:19:56 ack k 11:20:20 ka: do we have enough quorum to decide on PRs 11:21:13 ek: I think that three people is enough to guarantee that there is no draw at least 11:21:20 ka: we should bring this to the main call 11:21:35 ek: I will be happy to 11:22:39 subtopic: PR 352 to have obsolete directory 11:23:14 ek: we can merge it since it is just moving content 11:23:21 dp: better this way than to delete 11:24:17 q+ 11:24:40 q+ 11:24:52 topic: Twitter Account 11:25:14 ek: I would like to see Michael McCool or Sebastian here to get more context 11:25:15 ack dape 11:25:27 q+ 11:25:34 ack cris 11:25:37 dp: I would prefer to have a single account to not split 11:26:11 ca: I think we can prepend WG to make sure it is from a single group 11:26:43 ca: do we want to revise this? 11:26:46 ek: I think so 11:27:25 ka: if you think we need ig/wg co chairs in this call, we do not have quorum 11:28:55 ka: CG should not represent the W3C. The twitter account represents the W3C 11:29:09 ka: I propose that the CG has another twitter account 11:30:45 s|CG should not represent the W3C. The twitter account represents the W3C|WoT CG is not representing the W3C while the WoT-IG/WG have been representing the IG and WG based on the Charters.| 11:31:21 s/I propose that the CG has another twitter account/So I also would like to suggest the CG have another twitter account./ 11:31:32 q? 11:31:35 q- 11:31:36 q+ 11:33:04 ek: I think that we have quorum to discuss PRs not this twitter account discussion since the discussion is started by the chairs in the main call 11:35:26 q+ 11:35:52 ek: we should change the twitter name in this case 11:37:28 q+ 11:37:54 ka: you should be clear about who you are representing 11:39:12 dp: we should have a resolution in the main call for tweets in this case? 11:39:25 ack dape 11:40:28 ka: if ege tweets without the review period, we should be clear about the representation 11:40:47 dp: we should discuss this in the main call 11:41:21 ... and have a resolution there 11:42:05 ka: bringing to the main call is fine, you should be clear about the proposal 11:42:45 personal proposal: the W3C Web of Things twitter account can be used for any posts (tweets, retweets) that is about any web of things activity in the w3c 11:42:58 s/fine, you/fine, but you/ 11:43:32 ... if this is not fine, the name of the account should be changed 11:46:53 ek: we can talk in third person all the time 11:47:13 ka: so being a neutralist might be fine, we should talk about it in the main call 11:48:32 ek: yes but I think we do not have the terms to talk about this in the W3C 11:49:28 ka: the process is like a constitution, we should clarify in working gropus 11:51:27 s/the process is like a constitution, we should clarify in working gropus/The W3C Process is kind of like a constitution and doesn't define each possible item in detail, so we should talk with the whole IG to make the decision. For that purpose, you should clarify what you want to do during the main call./ 11:51:35 proposal: The W3C Web of Things twitter account can be used for any posts (tweets, retweets) that is about any web of things activity in the w3c. This includes the WoT IG, WG, WoT CG, WoT Japanese CG. The posts should be phrased in a neutral tone and the group that is involved should be made clear. Examples: The WoT WG has published TD 1.1, check it out here ; The WoT CG is holding an event X, check it out here. The WoT Japanese CG is holding a [CUT] 11:52:49 ... check it out here ; The Web Thing Protocol CG is holding an event at X, check it out here. 11:53:32 ka: how should the account be used and how to represent them? 11:54:48 s/ka: how should the account be used and how to represent them?/One of the key questions here is who to represent which group using this Twitter account./ 11:55:03 s/One of the/ka: One of the/ 11:55:09 rrsagent, make log public 11:55:17 rrsagent, draft minute 11:55:17 I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minute', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help 11:55:22 s/rrsagent, draft minute// 11:55:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 11:55:23 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/18-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz 11:55:24 ek: that is unclear I think. They should have access I guess and should be responsible to tweet. Otherwise, Ege or the WoT IG Chairs should be responsible? 11:56:54 ek: for the record, it was not a CG decision to use the twitter account. I have just tweeted anything about web of things. 11:58:51 ka: that means that the webthing chair ben, wot jp chairs toumura-san and mizushima-san can also use it. 11:59:29 ka: that means that you become sort of a marcomm team for wot and that might be too much 11:59:37 s/that means/that may imply/ 12:00:59 ek: I can see what can happen 12:01:07 ka: you can get too many requests 12:02:11 ka: the timing is a bit bad with the W3C restructuring at the moment 12:04:53 ka: we should focus in the spec work 12:05:03 ek: aob? 12:05:05 s/in the/on the/ 12:06:51 s/aob/ka: also we should think about (1) some kind of training on W3C standardization to the CG participants, (2) how to generate use cases based on their ideas and (3) how to bring the extracted use cases to the WoT IG so that we can update the WoT Use Cases document. Let's talk about that kind of work flow next time./ 12:06:57 (none) 12:07:01 [adjourned] 12:07:05 rrsagent, make log public 12:07:10 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:07:10 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/18-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz 13:59:14 Zakim has left #wot-marketing