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11:03:22 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
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11:06:06 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Jan_Romann, Zoltan_Kis
11:07:38 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#October_17.2C_2022
11:07:45 <dape> scribe: dape
11:08:00 <dape> TOPIC: Previous minutes
11:08:01 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:08:14 <dape> -> October-10 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/10/10-wot-script-minutes.html
11:09:16 <dape> all: Minutes look good -> minutes are approved
11:09:32 <dape> TOPIC: Quick updates
11:10:00 <dape> DP: Cancellation Call on October 31?
11:10:09 <dape> ... I am not available that day
11:10:26 <kaz> q+
11:10:46 <dape> Jan: I would be available
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11:11:12 <dape> Kaz: Japanese meeting in Tokyo -> not available
11:11:18 <kaz> ack k
11:11:21 <dape> ... suggest to cancel call
11:12:04 <dape> DP: will send out email and update the calendar
11:12:25 <dape> TOPIC: PRs
11:12:34 <dape> SUBTOPIC: feat: adjust ThingFilter interface
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11:12:59 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/434
11:13:10 <kaz> q+
11:13:39 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
11:13:39 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Jan_Romann, Zoltan_Kis, Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:14:33 <kaz> ack k
11:14:43 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
11:15:31 <dape> DP: constructor requires input
11:16:21 <dape> Jan: inspired by my implementation
11:16:29 <dape> ... always required URL
11:17:38 <cris___> q+
11:17:54 <zkis> q+
11:18:02 <dape> ... move URL outside of ThingFilter
11:18:30 <dape> ... other discovery methods might not require url... could make it optional
11:18:46 <dape> CA: understand the rational
11:18:59 <dape> ... agree about line 3772
11:19:17 <dape> ... wondering whether more changes make sense
11:19:50 <dape> ... function to have direct() and directory() ...
11:19:58 <dape> ... same with auto()
11:20:19 <dape> ... a general question.. not related to this PR only
11:21:28 <JKRhb> q+
11:22:11 <cris___> ack cr
11:22:24 <JKRhb> ack J
11:22:53 <zkis> https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-scripting-api/#the-start-method
11:23:20 <dape> CA: overall discussion, see ttps://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/222 (
11:23:30 <dape> Jan:  separate functions make sens
11:23:47 <dape> s/ttps:/https:
11:24:12 <cris___> q+
11:24:12 <dape> ZK: separate argument for each function needed
11:24:48 <dape> ...idea was to be compatible... if changes happen in discovery we should not break
11:25:01 <dape> ... need to extract value for developers
11:25:07 <dape> ... being flexible enough
11:25:12 <dape> q?
11:25:16 <dape> ack zkis
11:26:15 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:26:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:26:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:26:29 <dape> ... current way is most flexible
11:26:57 <dape> ... PlugFest might show benefits
11:27:26 <dape> CA: use-case to find things around me ...
11:27:33 <kaz> chair: Daniel
11:27:36 <dape> ... is a valid use-case
11:28:00 <dape> ... the function API shape looks better to me
11:28:02 <kaz> s/222 (/222/
11:28:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:28:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:28:18 <dape> ... current design prone to error
11:29:47 <zkis> q+
11:30:25 <dape> ... suggest to merge this PR as is and continue discussing the function API for discovery
11:30:36 <dape> ack cris___
11:30:47 <dape> ZK: looking at the discovery spec
11:31:03 <dape> ... I think we can expose discovery options
11:31:30 <dape> ... any() function does not sound right to me
11:32:11 <dape> ... we have homework to do
11:33:55 <zkis> q+
11:34:06 <dape> DP: charter time frame is not enough for changing the API
11:34:25 <dape> CA: agree, might need more time
11:35:11 <dape> DP: Should check algorithms also..
11:35:24 <dape> Jan: need to check more closely
11:36:00 <dape> q?
11:36:49 <dape> ZK: algorithms  might need changes
11:37:16 <dape> ... breaking changes
11:37:30 <dape> ... I am against the "required" changes
11:37:50 <dape> ... seems against the discovery api as well
11:40:07 <dape> ... would try to start with discovery spec and check APIs and shapes
11:40:29 <JKRhb> q+
11:40:33 <dape> ... will make these comments in PR
11:44:19 <dape> ZK: Suggest we experiment with the API
11:44:24 <dape> CA: Will do
11:44:34 <JKRhb> ack J
11:44:55 <dape> Jan: Can try to work on that as well..
11:45:26 <dape> ack zkis
11:45:31 <kaz> q+
11:45:58 <dape> Kaz: not merge PR now? continue discussion
11:46:21 <kaz> s/now?/now and/
11:46:47 <dape> DP: Correct
11:47:02 <dape> Kaz: Useful to add label
11:49:34 <dape> DP: Agree, on the other hand I do not see which label to use.. since the outcome is very unclear for now
11:51:18 <dape> TOPIC: Issues
11:51:32 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Definition missing for "discovery results"
11:51:39 <dape> ->  https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/437
11:53:13 <dape> ... PR 405 broke definition
11:53:35 <dape> ZK: question whether we need discovery results" at all
11:53:52 <dape> Jan: I think we can remove it.. but will check
11:54:51 <dape> ... will work on PR
11:55:44 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:55:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:56:49 <kaz> [adjourned]
11:56:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:56:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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