15:10:43 RRSAgent has joined #auto 15:10:43 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-auto-irc 15:10:44 scribenick: ted 15:10:45 RRSAgent, make logs Public 15:10:46 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 15:10:49 Meeting: VSSo 15:10:55 Topic: Welcome back 15:11:00 @@congrats to Daniel 15:11:09 Topic: Results of build 15:11:26 @@automate 15:11:33 @@designdecisions 15:12:00 Felix: we also need to encourage others from more companies (Ford and Mercedes for example) to re-engage 15:15:38 DanielA inquires about issues during build 15:15:40 ---> 11 out_concept['definition'] = g.value(concept, SKOS.definition).toPython() 15:15:49 @@html_namespace_markup_etc 15:16:31 DanielA: another comment regarding VSSo development, we should keep focus on having the Core module in a stable state 15:16:56 … there are other decisions to be made but Core should be stable. That should be our initial focus 15:17:00 Felix: agree 15:17:55 DanielA: regarding increasing participation from partners. I reached out and made counter proposals but feel we need to address one at a time 15:18:47 Felix: I do not want to exclude anyone but unless people are showing up to actually contribute, it is difficult to accept counter proposals 15:19:24 … re-activating this group is important. after reaching a stable state for the Core, we should reach out more broadly 15:19:47 DanielA: a stable version, concensus on Core from attendees and trying to engage are good goals for the rest of the year 15:20:11 … not only having the model but demo with real or mock data would be very useful for understanding how this ontology can help 15:24:35 Ted: need to get a body of data, might be able to get help from a NSF project 15:24:54 … could probably host SPARQL or other at W3C 15:25:03 https://github.com/commaai/comma2k19 15:25:24 DanielA: this body of data is potentially useful but there seems to be limitation on uses 15:25:34 Ted: I think Bosch has some open data 15:27:48 @@ford_ev 15:27:49 https://wiki.covesa.global/display/WIK4/EV+Charging+and+Energy+Services+Proposal#EVChargingandEnergyServicesProposal-DraftCharter 15:30:04 Ted: effort is to leverage SAREF4Auto and VSSo 15:30:23 DanielA: the hard part is trying to convince people to use ontologies to begin with 15:30:43 … simple queries are not enough, combining disparate sources is what makes it valuable 15:31:12 … same with showing cross-OEM uses with data 15:35:08 Next steps: 15:35:59 * Tooling, Ted to share VSS tools build issue with Daniel 15:36:24 * All to try to identify data sets for demo, Ted to try for Ford EV project at AMM this week 15:37:53 * Felix to prioritize issues, centering on Core first 15:51:28 Topic: Issues 15:51:30 https://github.com/w3c/vsso/issues 15:51:38 @@vsso-core_tage 15:54:07 * Attendees encouraged to contribute to issues tagged as vsso-core 15:54:37 Felix: we can find some that we can resolve readily, assign ones that will take more work 15:55:09 DanielA: I would recommend larger, more impactful such as instances vs sub-classes as a priority 15:55:12 Felix: agree 15:55:36 https://github.com/w3c/vsso/issues/22 15:55:48 Felix: we will discuss that one next time 15:56:51 DanielA: that is a tricky issue, will consume a fair amount of time and should select another 15:57:16 … we can also bring forward a list of competency questions to make sure ontology can answer 15:57:23 Felix: makes sense too 15:59:11 Next Meeting: 24 October, cancel 31 October 16:00:03 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-auto-minutes.html ted 16:03:15 s/@@congrats to Daniel/Congratulations to Daniel Alvarez and welcome back from paternity leave/ 16:04:41 s/@@automate/Ted: as we advanced VSS, I wanted to look towards creating updated VSSo and VSSo Core specs. Core built whereas VSSo threw an error around SKOS object./ 16:06:28 s/@@designdecisions/… I will address namespace, markup and other issues so we can generate publishable W3C specs automatically as VSS gets released. There may be times we want to pause that while addressing design decisions/ 16:07:35 s/@@html_namespace_markup_etc/Ted: Carine and I made a number of manual tweaks to pass W3C Pubrules and I will work to get those into underlying Python/ 16:09:12 s/@@ford_ev/… the COVESA Ford EV crowdsourcing project could be great to demo around, perhaps attract some of the NSF PIVOT researchers I mentioned who are looking at EV issues/ 16:10:05 s/@@vsso-core_tage/[reviewed open issues assigning #vss-core tag to prioritize]/ 16:10:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-auto-minutes.html ted 16:10:52 Chair: DanielA, Felix 16:10:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-auto-minutes.html ted 19:14:52 Zakim has left #auto 22:33:39 Present+ Ted 22:34:03 Zakim has joined #auto 22:34:10 Present+ Ted 22:34:41 Present+ Daniel_Alvarez, Felix_Loesch, Nick_Russel, Ted_Guild 22:34:45 Present- Ted 22:34:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/17-auto-minutes.html ted 22:35:09 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Ted, Daniel_Alvarez, Felix_Loesch, Nick_Russel, Ted_Guild 22:35:09 Zakim has left #auto 22:35:11 I see no action items