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13:35:09 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
13:35:09 <trackbot> Date: 13 October 2022
13:35:24 <lisa> agenda+ updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc  also look at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit#
13:35:31 <lisa> agenda?
13:35:42 <lisa> clear agenda
13:36:03 <lisa> scribe+ EA
13:36:14 <lisa> agenda+ updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc  also look at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit#
13:36:29 <lisa> agenda+ Updates with EO
13:36:42 <lisa> agenda+ Structure qualitative research
13:36:59 <lisa> agenda+ Schedule for mental health
13:37:27 <lisa> agenda+ Our review of Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility> at coga review  of accessible meetings <https://docs.google.com/document/d/14Ha6bbgDMMo_zLLWa3yz88mkwL2Dz7eczWXQTB6mcPc/edit?usp=sharing>
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14:00:55 <lisa> zakim, next item
14:00:55 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc  also look at
14:00:59 <Zakim> ... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit# -- taken up [from lisa]
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14:01:21 <lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
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14:01:58 <EA> Lisa called for updates and actions - very quick round up
14:02:16 <EA> Mental health sub group - set two more meetings
14:02:26 <lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Subgroups scedule for subgroups
14:03:38 <EA> Lisa and Rashmi worked late for initial meeting so set new times - India friendly times and more that are US friendly. One after this call 7/19th Oct meeting in the mornings
14:04:00 <EA> Any problems due to timings?
14:04:05 <EA> No comments
14:04:07 <lisa> any objections:
14:04:46 <EA> Structure subgroup - Rain mentioned a concern
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14:05:28 <kirkwood> present+
14:05:58 <EA> Rain had a solution to possible issues - qualitative research having done the quantative survey - Kiki, Shawn and Rain analysing quantative data and now want interview for sharing more data
14:06:14 <EA> Also share more to validate data
14:06:46 <EA> Need to record the interviews such as video recording or carefully documenting what comes out of the interviews... need ethics
14:07:10 <EA> W3C does not have approved tools or ethics approval for privacy and data etc
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14:08:22 <EA> We as individuals are responsible for the ethics - means that coga individuals are put at risk.  Possibly Google could be the  organisation that has the research ethics
14:08:27 <Poornima> present+
14:08:54 <lisa> present +
14:09:09 <EA> Findings would then be shared with coga and it is possible other organisations have ethics and could provide support
14:09:09 <Kiki> Present
14:09:12 <lisa> q+
14:10:46 <EA> Rain feels that coga task force should be comfortable with the chosen organisation that receives the data and has the insights.
14:11:01 <lisa> ack next
14:11:39 <Jennie> q+ Regarding assent vs consent
14:11:42 <Jennie> q+
14:11:49 <EA> Kiki confirmed that only the consent forms and data would be seen by the organisation and then shared outcomes - confirmed by Lisa
14:13:15 <Becca_Monteleone> q+
14:13:30 <EA> Lisa explained that invited experts may not have any infrastructure behind them so could be sued.  Asked if Google could work with a hybrid system where the experts can do it as part of Google and the others have their own research infrastructure.
14:14:14 <EA> Rain replied that this would not be possible with Google as the latter is very careful about sharing data and keeping private data secure.
14:14:51 <EA> Rain said that it is possible to pull our anonymised data and share that with others.
14:15:44 <EA> Lisa asked how it affected viewing the survey
14:15:44 <lisa> Q?
14:17:00 <lisa> ack next
14:17:03 <Jennie> 1. Institutional Review Board (IRB) process/length of time for review before launch. 2. Assent process in addition to Consent or option to use this. 3. No pay wall for publication.
14:17:05 <EA> Rain replied that what people agreed to initially states clearly what is allowed - so that is easier but as Kiki confirmed the data collected from individuals the consent is different and belongs to Google.
14:17:22 <EA> data belongs to Google
14:18:25 <lisa> ack next
14:18:50 <EA> Jennie commented on the length of time that needs to be considered - then you need to think about assent as well as consent as some groups may have difficulty with this aspect.  Google may want no pay wall
14:19:05 <Rachael> q+
14:20:00 <Rain> Yes
14:20:06 <Rachael> q-
14:20:35 <Rain> q+
14:21:10 <EA> Lisa suggested that after Rain and Kiki do the research around the interviews it is then shared - not a formal partnership - need to avoid that.
14:21:16 <Rain> ack Rain
14:22:33 <EA> Becca added that many universities allow people to be added as part of the research team - affiliated to allow for collaboration.
14:23:31 <lisa> ack next
14:23:36 <EA> Universities can take time but it depends on the subject content and liabilities.
14:24:37 <Kiki> q+
14:24:46 <EA> Rain followed up as confirming that she and Kiki are happy to work on the interviews but happy to support it going through another organisation.
14:24:49 <lisa> ack next
14:25:38 <EA> Kiki +1 to Rain's comments and willing to help with research and scripts etc. as the initial stages do not involve the data
14:26:09 <Becca_Monteleone> +1 to Kiki - university standards, it is only the consent process, data collection, and de-identification that need to be done through the approved ethics process.
14:26:53 <kirkwood> no objection
14:27:03 <EA> Lisa asked Rain and Kiki to put together the actions to take to carrying out the research around the interviews at Google.
14:27:11 <Jennie> no objection
14:27:11 <EA> +1
14:27:13 <Kiki> no objections
14:27:21 <Rain> +1 to that path forward and gives people time to think of another organization if there is one
14:27:34 <kirkwood> +1
14:27:36 <lisa> zakim, next item
14:27:36 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Updates with EO -- taken up [from lisa]
14:28:07 <lisa> Draft survey https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1-VdpaYq0qLk0bZYryimWb-VL_tlklX-D1Uvtd2btzrw/edit   Sending it out :https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xXjHPCfWm00iAJqmjdwFq_RQ80vKwwxFAoiEGI3NOlM/edit#gid=0
14:28:07 <EA> Research Plan and Strategy - send out the survey
14:28:42 <EA> Updates with EO - speedy update
14:29:39 <kirkwood> can we put google doc in irc?
14:29:51 <EA> Julie - Another script to review - explanation of cognitive and learning difficulties - feedback on text version - script now about video version. Please use the Google doc Next Weds aligning on feedback
14:30:00 <EA> Calendar invite sent out
14:30:37 <EA> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WIUsN_iZESQfwCqTUl6w_ukm7oNwTQTCfBZcBIQO7cE/edit#
14:30:54 <kirkwood> perfect
14:31:55 <EA> Meeting Wed Oct 19th to be completed by 21st Oct - possible 1hr - complexity of one of the user stories
14:32:07 <lisa> q?
14:32:49 <EA> Roxanne - scripts based on information already provided and reflected in the script.
14:33:09 <EA> Lisa said the Julie has pulled out 8 paragraphs and sentences for commenting
14:33:52 <EA> Roxanne confirmed that was all as revolves around coga scripts not the rest of the scripts for other disabilities
14:34:02 <julierawe> q+
14:34:35 <lisa> ack next
14:36:07 <EA> Julie thanked Lisa and confirmed that the survey covered many other abilities - scripts on tools and techniques, perception etc and coga may want to comment on but due to time restraints Julie feels we concentrate on the aspects that directly relate to cognitive impairment.  EO will lose their funding for the videos if they do not get them finished by the end of the year
14:37:45 <EA> Lisa agreed that the timeline is tight and may need to consider a pre-consent system.  So please put in comments from now on and try to attend and Julie will submit it as there is no time if you have an issue.  Lisa asked if people were happy with the tight timeline
14:37:54 <Jennie> +1 to following Julie's lead on this
14:38:02 <Rain> +1 I am okay with it, Julie is really good about reaching out for clarity when needed
14:38:03 <kirkwood> +1
14:38:05 <lisa> are we ok with julie submitting the results of the google doc as an issue to eo after wensdays call
14:38:07 <Rashmi> +1
14:38:08 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
14:38:08 <EA> +1 to following Julie's lead
14:38:15 <lisa> any objections
14:38:26 <lisa> ?
14:38:40 <lisa> q?
14:38:51 <lisa> zakim, next item
14:38:51 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Structure qualitative research -- taken up [from lisa]
14:38:59 <EA> Lisa apologised for the fact this had to be completed so speedily
14:39:01 <lisa> close item 3
14:39:07 <lisa> close item 4
14:39:12 <lisa> zakim, next item
14:39:12 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Our review of Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility> at coga review  of
14:39:15 <Zakim> ... accessible meetings <https://docs.google.com/document/d/14Ha6bbgDMMo_zLLWa3yz88mkwL2Dz7eczWXQTB6mcPc/edit?usp=sharing> -- taken up [from lisa]
14:39:29 <EA> Review of collboration tool - need results
14:40:15 <Jennie> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility
14:40:18 <EA> Jennie asked people to look at the document and make decisions as she will not be around later
14:40:28 <Jennie> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit#
14:41:58 <EA> Share feedback in the document and Jennie will share her screen.  Added suggestions, tools and title and has shared this via email and clarification and going through data already collected
14:42:25 <EA> Jennie also added the prior comments so they are available.
14:42:32 <lisa> q?
14:43:00 <Rashmi> Recent update - We got Janina's response for Jennie's mail about asking the scope of collaboration tool
14:43:06 <EA> Jennie hopes that it will all be completed by the end of the following week as she is out of her office
14:44:30 <EA> Jennie read Janina's email response with more documents to look at and other note documents.  Lots of acronyms mentioned
14:44:58 <EA> The acronyms relate to the groups working on other documents related to the collaboration document.
14:45:54 <EA> Lisa mentioned the issue with time that is now being considered for feedback - early January.  Lisa mentioned that it was going to be end of October.
14:46:59 <EA> Lisa feels this is an important document and our feedback appears to be getting lost in the workflow
14:47:55 <EA> The document appears to be going to be published now and we have not had time to put together finalised feedback.  We have to give quality feedback.
14:48:44 <EA> Rachel asked if we had agreed to end of Oct - Lisa mentioned it was in a coordination call and Rachel said she will check out what she can find.
14:49:19 <EA> Lisa asked what we should do now... suggested we carry on and Rachel will talk to Janina if possible to see what we can do.
14:49:38 <EA> Apologies Rachael - spelling of name.
14:49:53 <Rachael> Rachael has an action to circle back with Janina and find out why the date changed and what we can do to provide feedback (which wont' be available until Nov 1)
14:51:20 <kirkwood> can we propose a github issue? .. is there a github issue already to this point?
14:51:49 <EA> John asked if there is a specific Github issue that we are talking about?
14:52:40 <EA> Lisa saw on an APA list that the working draft was going to consensus.
14:53:15 <Jennie> q+
14:53:32 <lisa> ack next
14:53:32 <Rachael> q+
14:53:39 <Rachael> q-
14:53:58 <EA> Jennie reviewing what Rachael mentioned
14:54:20 <Jennie> ack Jennie
14:55:47 <EA> Rachael gave a couple of options - APA members can put negative 1 to the group - concerns not got coga review.  Or it could be a cross group review which is what we are trying to do to provide feedback.  Rachael would prefer to contact Janina first and then consider what should be the next step.
14:56:02 <lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Oct/0008.html
14:56:45 <EA> Rachael will email Janina and also have a private conversation as the next step.
14:57:29 <EA> Jennie will make sure she has reviewed what has taken place over the coming days and review comments added.
14:57:49 <lisa> jennies doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit#
14:57:50 <EA> Lisa and Rachael please can you take care of other things whist Jennie is away.
14:59:32 <EA> Lisa is hoping there will be some conclusions to the review and Jennie is happy to complete the action.
14:59:36 <lisa> call for concensus from APA is at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Oct/0008.html
14:59:51 <Jennie> APA members only?
15:00:05 <lisa> if you do not agree and are in apa you can respond -1
15:01:13 <lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
15:01:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/13-coga-minutes.html lisa
15:01:42 <ShawnT> present+
15:02:00 <Rain> Agenda for Structure subgroup: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1488tG8loN-lmJ9vJT9nAlIVnbyyLVd27VeIkFferrQs/edit#heading=h.lubi2u51qyh1
15:06:46 <lisa> agenda+  sending out the resrch gorup survey
15:06:57 <lisa> agenda+ recuting colaberations
15:07:29 <lisa> topic: subgroups Structure Review For Content Useable and Research Plan and Strategy
15:07:39 <lisa> agenda?
15:08:22 <lisa> close item 5
15:10:18 <Rain> agenda+ Quantitative study
15:10:34 <Rain> agenda+ review themes
15:10:42 <Rain> agenda+ Review 1st draft of a revised structure
15:10:46 <lisa> next item
15:11:14 <lisa> Draft survey https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1-VdpaYq0qLk0bZYryimWb-VL_tlklX-D1Uvtd2btzrw/edit
15:11:24 <lisa> Sending it out :https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xXjHPCfWm00iAJqmjdwFq_RQ80vKwwxFAoiEGI3NOlM/edit#gid=0
15:11:43 <lisa> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xXjHPCfWm00iAJqmjdwFq_RQ80vKwwxFAoiEGI3NOlM/edit#gid=1485617472
15:13:04 <Rain> q+
15:14:59 <ShawnT> q+ to speak on supplied text?
15:15:20 <ShawnT> awk Rain
15:15:35 <ShawnT> ack Rain
15:15:43 <lisa> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xXjHPCfWm00iAJqmjdwFq_RQ80vKwwxFAoiEGI3NOlM/edit#gid=1485617472
15:15:46 <Rain> scribe+ Rain Kiki ShawnT kirkwood lisa
15:16:10 <lisa> Q?
15:16:11 <Rain> survey deadline is Nov 30
15:16:20 <Rain> post anywhere we can now, including social media
15:16:26 <ShawnT> Take a survey about W3C's research documents on accessibility for People with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities.
15:16:26 <ShawnT> Through the survey we would like to understand how people are using the current content, what needs to be updates. This will help us make the next version more useful.
15:16:26 <ShawnT> (links to a Google Form at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1-VdpaYq0qLk0bZYryimWb-VL_tlklX-D1Uvtd2btzrw/edit
15:16:26 <ShawnT> For maximum reach, help us in sharing the survey widely so that we can make the next versions even better!
15:16:28 <ShawnT> This survey is anonymous unless you choose to give us your contact information for more conversations.
15:16:32 <Rain> can use the text on the top of the form for twitter, facebook, linkedin, etc.
15:16:47 <Rain> Post again closer to the deadline as well for people who are deadline motivated
15:16:54 <Kiki> I can post on linkedin (sorry on mute) making coffee and it is loud
15:17:19 <Rain> Lisa: we've had two surveys, one on structure, one on research
15:19:07 <lisa> we basicly want feedback on how our reserch is bieing used. this included our reserch module and issue papers. we want to know if people will use an update and if it is enough for it to be on the wiki or if they need a full w3c note
15:19:20 <Rain> Lisa from LT: So we had one survey on making company usable, and this survey is about our research documents.
15:19:40 <Rain> Lisa from LT: You know the research module and the issue papers. And basically you want to see people using it.
15:19:55 <Rain> Lisa from LT: And how important is it so that we we can get a feel of how important it is to update?
15:21:06 <Rain> Kiki: will send to research groups at Google, talk offline with Rain regarding groups
15:21:18 <Rain> Julie: will post on linked in, but this survey more in the weeds for some folks
15:21:28 <ShawnT> What's the link for the research documents
15:24:10 <Rain> Links to each of the documents are at the top of the https://forms.gle/VBCJTjGeFZRM2F8r6
15:24:12 <Kiki> q+
15:24:22 <ShawnT> ack ShawnT
15:24:22 <Zakim> ShawnT, you wanted to speak on supplied text?
15:24:22 <lisa> ack next
15:24:47 <Rain> Kiki: will mock up a linked in post and share it with the group memebers
15:24:52 <ShawnT> +1 to Kiki
15:25:05 <Rain> agenda?
15:25:09 <lisa> next item
15:25:32 <lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.6co50luve41b
15:25:43 <Rain> Lisa: research collaborations, when it comes to updating our research the best things to do is work with others
15:26:05 <Rain> ... have drafted an email we can use
15:26:12 <lisa> link to email https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DoohB2-tREjXx7PF6sCi3jLt6OrjE1ciAb0Dcb7FgyU/edit#heading=h.fuatm6qk6a2h
15:29:09 <lisa> next item
15:29:20 <lisa> scribe+ lisa
15:29:33 <lisa> rain: kiki doing analisis
15:31:10 <lisa> 75 responces. wich is quite good
15:31:12 <ShawnT> I started my review
15:32:15 <ShawnT> ... Shawn started taking a look
15:32:51 <lisa> rain: we should consolidate after kiki is finished
15:33:31 <lisa> john: initial concluisons?
15:33:42 <lisa> rain: i am afraid to biase results
15:34:37 <lisa> agenda?
15:34:39 <Rain> q?
15:35:10 <lisa> kiki on the study plan
15:35:15 <Kiki> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ql32NLUquUtJwGuMuORZpNN4iNdLdcWtdBbIfWsRYW0/edit?usp=sharing
15:35:16 <Rain> zakim, next item
15:35:16 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- review themes -- taken up [from Rain]
15:36:14 <lisa> quistions to help understand how the stucture should occor
15:36:25 <lisa> and behavoural - how they find things
15:36:39 <lisa> (based on task not self reporting)
15:37:01 <lisa> reserch qurestions guided the questions
15:38:13 <lisa> most edffective to have 5 users per user grpups. get most of the issues
15:39:16 <lisa> what about people who should use it but do not becuse it is tooo dence. so they are tvery important so they CAN use it
15:39:48 <lisa> questions
15:39:50 <lisa> ?
15:39:52 <lisa> q?
15:40:08 <lisa> please review it
15:41:27 <lisa> lisa: can we do the tasks again with the new draft
15:41:47 <lisa> kiki: even an outline would help
15:41:48 <ShawnT> I'm so happy we aren't using the expand and collapse feature
15:42:05 <Rain> zakim, next item
15:42:05 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Review 1st draft of a revised structure -- taken up [from Rain]
15:43:00 <lisa> rain: folowing ftf meetings we can out with the linked idea
15:43:01 <Rain> idea 3 for structure that we came up with at TPAC: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1PTCdFcg6NRK4exNX9LIquCGFHIwthQod4lgXpQx4vKw/edit#slide=id.gfebbc5d98a_0_223
15:43:25 <Rain> preliminary first draft of what this might look like: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z3gNtybZU4AJHzZ1sRAxDW5FIjZuIgUuLHtCfP6Jmps/edit#
15:43:31 <lisa> i made a fisrst draft of what it looks like
15:44:23 <lisa> take a look and see what u thinlk
15:45:09 <lisa> summary as a table
15:46:00 <lisa> q+
15:46:20 <lisa> ignore the icons
15:47:33 <lisa> tags after each prinicple
15:47:44 <lisa> #ignore language for now, and ignore icons
15:49:57 <julierawe> q+
15:52:53 <Kiki> q+
15:54:41 <ShawnT> q+ to speak about basing terms on work being done in FAST https://w3c.github.io/fast/
15:58:12 <lisa> ack next
15:58:22 <ShawnT> I really like the WCAG Quick Reference tool: https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/quickref/?currentsidebar=%23col_customize
15:58:47 <lisa> will the grafics make it hard to translate
15:59:34 <lisa> shawn: if there is text in the grafic if you dont need it in alt you dont need the translate
16:00:01 <lisa> text in grafics is a problem
16:00:40 <lisa> rain: we could make sure the alt text is not specific
16:00:48 <lisa> but images are realy important
16:01:08 <lisa> q?
16:01:42 <lisa> ack next
16:01:54 <lisa> ack next
16:02:26 <lisa> kiki: images are very important
16:02:44 <lisa> it is comment to have reserch at the bottom
16:02:59 <lisa> maybe an apendix
16:03:38 <lisa> i like the industry tumonlogy
16:03:49 <lisa> the organization to me makes sence
16:04:41 <lisa> have them all in one place is helpful
16:05:08 <lisa> looks great
16:05:17 <lisa> ack next
16:05:18 <Zakim> ShawnT, you wanted to speak about basing terms on work being done in FAST https://w3c.github.io/fast/
16:06:46 <lisa> rain: they ared very diffrent
16:07:10 <lisa> lisa: should wse alight
16:08:11 <lisa> fast functional needs
16:13:44 <lisa> lisa: summary as a table stops being a simple lang summary
16:13:55 <lisa> rain: we need to try iterations
16:14:05 <lisa> lisa to try and iteration
16:14:39 <lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
16:14:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/13-coga-minutes.html lisa
16:15:17 <lisa> trackbot, end meeting
16:15:17 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:15:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been rashmi, Lisa, Becca_Monteleone, aaronchu, Jennie, julierawe, kirkwood, Roy, Rachael, ShawnT, Fazio, AbbeyD, Poornima, Rain, julerawe, EA,
16:15:20 <Zakim> ... present+, \
16:15:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:15:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/13-coga-minutes.html trackbot
16:15:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:15:26 <RRSAgent> I see no action items