IRC log of wcag3-scoring on 2022-10-12
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- zakim, start meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Francis_Storr
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- meeting: Issue Severity 2, week 1
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- 12:08:14 [sarahhorton]
- scribe: Sarah
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- Tentative reschedule for 7am PT, 10am ET, 3pm BT
- 12:09:53 [sarahhorton]
- Francis_Storr: Intros
- 12:11:08 [sarahhorton]
- Azlan: Joined conformance subgroup, works for Just Giving, owned by Blackboard, fundraising for charities, front-end engineer, team lead
- 12:11:23 [sarahhorton]
- ... more exposure to people using AT, need awareness
- 12:12:54 [sarahhorton]
- Francis_Storr: Works for Intel, accessibility, W3C for couple years
- 12:13:39 [sarahhorton]
- ShawnT: Digital accessibility tech advisory for Canadian fed gov, 15 years, accessibility coding, publishing, advising, 18 months with AGWG
- 12:13:44 [sarahhorton]
- ... also COGA
- 12:15:05 [ShawnT]
- https://github.com/w3c/silver/wiki/Issue-Severity-2-Subgroup
- 12:15:42 [sarahhorton]
- Francis_Storr: Goal, build off previous work
- 12:15:57 [sarahhorton]
- ... "The goal is to further explore the ideas of issue severity in context, and of defining issue severity at a test level."
- 12:16:32 [sarahhorton]
- ShawnT: AGWG discussions about issue severity, test level, anyone going against that approach?
- 12:19:10 [Francis_Storr]
- scribe: Francis_Storr
- 12:20:22 [Francis_Storr]
- sarahhorton we're at a crossroads where we can look at the feedback we've got. we could assess and see if we need to reset, or we can just say let's keep going down the path we're on
- 12:20:57 [Francis_Storr]
- ... if this group has a hesitation on moving down the path, we should reset. where are we as a group?
- 12:22:07 [Francis_Storr]
- ... the direction where I think we're going is to pick up where we left off with looking at issue severity at the test level
- 12:22:31 [Francis_Storr]
- ... this is impacted at the user's context and how do we account for that?
- 12:22:44 [sarahhorton]
- scribe: sarahhorton
- 12:23:09 [sarahhorton]
- Azlan: Fair bit of room within scope, further explore ideas, leaves space to work in
- 12:23:37 [sarahhorton]
- ... goal is pretty clear, a lot of work gone into where we are
- 12:23:49 [sarahhorton]
- ... no cause for concern with what's there in goal statement
- 12:24:16 [Francis_Storr]
- TPAC presentation: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1agb_XbMzroRtbscmDIMH1BxqZgDdWymqoxvLESN1LJA/edit#slide=id.p
- 12:25:35 [Francis_Storr]
- Critical severity worksheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MEdnI4CvrTlq1843MZfWLaIBGmoGXXQPpUOhEY1NgV4/edit#gid=412502721
- 12:43:35 [Francis_Storr]
- scribe: Francis_Storr
- 12:44:27 [Francis_Storr]
- sarah walks through the critical severity worksheet, explaining the previous subgroup's work
- 12:46:59 [Francis_Storr]
- sarahhorton : maybe we could approach this as to help people understand what's critical. it would help designers and developers focus on context, and the critical issues and to address them.
- 12:51:10 [sarahhorton]
- scribe: sarahhorton
- 12:51:36 [sarahhorton]
- Francis_Storr: Review questions that came out, questions in editor's note
- 12:52:10 [ShawnT]
- https://github.com/w3c/silver/pull/656
- 12:54:15 [sarahhorton]
- Francis_Storr: Not yet reviewed or published
- 12:58:29 [sarahhorton]
- Francis_Storr: Critical severity issue worksheet, need to update the columns to incorporate all the functional needs
- 12:58:51 [sarahhorton]
- ShawnT: Comes from Functional Needs worksheet, incomplete
- 12:59:27 [sarahhorton]
- ... In the columns, user needs, we need to be able to include multiple user needs
- 13:00:00 [ShawnT]
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/16ZeCqTRTY0lmWvp1Xv_wO0iH1OzyECBa1UXQ_UeocjQ/edit?pli=1#heading=h.4jiwp8jpc143
- 13:00:05 [sarahhorton]
- ... User needs worksheets, 2 worksheets, includes user needs from functional needs document
- 13:00:38 [sarahhorton]
- ... two sheets, one with names of user needs, second by main, secondary, and user need
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- ... gets detailed
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- Francis_Storr: Next week?
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- Azlan: Read through everything shared
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- Francis_Storr: Working meeting before AGWG next week
- 13:04:34 [sarahhorton]
- ShawnT: Survey responses from the AGWG survey, before TPAC
- 13:04:52 [sarahhorton]
- ... put in our Google doc to review
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- francis to book optional working meeting for next week, one hour before AGWG call
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-wcag3-scoring-minutes.html Francis_Storr
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