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14:49:06 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio_
14:49:57 <Fazio_> meeting: Maturity Model
14:50:08 <Fazio_> chair: Fazio, SBH
14:52:03 <Fazio_> Agenda+ Check in with Charles on Maturity Model Pilot project.
14:52:16 <Fazio_> zakim, clear agenda
14:52:16 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:52:23 <Fazio_> Agenda+ Check in with Charles on Maturity Model Pilot project.
14:52:41 <Fazio_> Agenda+ Continue discussion on whether or not to use Slack to provide feedback on Maturity Model FPWD
14:53:04 <Fazio_> Agenda+ Explore expanding Maturity Model Subgroup into a task force for APA re-chartering next year
14:53:16 <Fazio_> Agenda+ New business
14:54:56 <Fazio_> present+
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14:59:59 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:59:59 <Zakim> Present: Fazio, nadine, sheri_b-h, janina, jlkline, maryjom, Lionel_Wolberger, JakeAbma, kline, Lionel_Wolberger_, CharlesL, present, Fazio_
15:00:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, nadine, RRSAgent, Fazio_, jspellman, Zakim
15:01:56 <nadine> present+
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15:03:10 <Sheri_B-H> present+
15:03:18 <janina> present+
15:03:26 <Fazio_> Scribe+ Sher_B-H
15:03:34 <Sheri_B-H> scribe+ Sheri_B-H
15:03:56 <Fazio_> zakim, next item
15:03:56 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Check in with Charles on Maturity Model Pilot project. -- taken up [from Fazio_]
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15:04:15 <JakeAbma> Present+
15:04:47 <Sheri_B-H> David: Charles has regrets for the next two weeks, will give us an update on the 26th
15:05:11 <Fazio_> zakim, next item
15:05:12 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Continue discussion on whether or not to use Slack to provide feedback on Maturity Model FPWD -- taken up [from Fazio_]
15:07:12 <Sheri_B-H> Draft Resolution: Use Slack to communicate with the public for Q&A, which will be archived to Git by Michael
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15:10:21 <Fazio_> Slack decision is tabled for now
15:10:29 <Fazio_> zakim, next item
15:10:29 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Explore expanding Maturity Model Subgroup into a task force for APA re-chartering next year -- taken up [from Fazio_]
15:10:37 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri and David: concerns over informal communications, the instantaneous nature of Slack might trigger a response that wouldn't occur in Git
15:10:38 <JakeAbma> 1p'
15:11:21 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri: What's the difference between a subgroup and a task force
15:11:27 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: Task Forces have a work statement
15:11:41 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: more meetings for co-facilitators
15:11:56 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: takes away one level of bureaucracy
15:13:37 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: Thought about it quite a bit over the past week, doesn't think it works for MM because you can't use it to establish conformance
15:18:19 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: Doesn't think APA would oppose move to TF, but need to articulate a reason
15:22:03 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: Need to put together roadmap for circulating second wide draft and plan for HTML forms
15:22:18 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: MM will be specifically named in APAs next charter
15:22:29 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: as a deliverable
15:22:56 <Sheri_B-H> Janina and Sheri: Forms should be HTML interface only, there are many legal reasons (subpoenas, privacy, GDPR) that we don't want to host the data
15:23:27 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: next APA charter will last until July 31, 2025
15:25:33 <Sheri_B-H> Brian: will be providing feedback after filtering out internal questions
15:25:58 <Fazio_> zakim, next item
15:25:58 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New business -- taken up [from Fazio_]
15:27:10 <Sheri_B-H> Brian: Two questions: 1) With large companies, should this model be done dimension by dimension, or should it be done for the entire corporation?
15:28:34 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri: You can do it dimension by dimension if you have some who want to do it more quickly and some that are lagging
15:29:42 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri: Having some early wins might convince owners of the other dimensions to get on board
15:30:11 <Sheri_B-H> Brian: There is some overlap (for example, comms and executive support)
15:30:42 <Sheri_B-H> Brian: a dashboard will be helpful, so you can see the maturity for the entire organization
15:31:38 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri: right now, we have a simplified scoring mechanism - total points earned divided by available points
15:33:23 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri: Some organizations may want to weight the proof point values
15:39:27 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: we will start going through issues next week
15:39:57 <Sheri_B-H> rrsagent, make minutes
15:39:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-maturity-minutes.html Sheri_B-H
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