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13:54:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:54:51 <trackbot> Date: 12 October 2022
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13:55:05 <matatk> Chair:  Matthew
13:55:05 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:55:05 <matatk> agenda+ FAST Update - slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bQYDKiwv0Fc9HyA6TNzb6paQkQY9OouyH-SbaS2qtd8/edit#slide=id.gc6f73a04f_0_0
13:55:08 <matatk> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:55:11 <matatk> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:55:14 <matatk> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:55:16 <matatk> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
13:55:19 <matatk> agenda+ EPUB 3.3 review
13:55:22 <matatk> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
13:55:25 <matatk> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
13:55:27 <matatk> agenda+ Other Business
13:55:46 <matatk> zakim, clear the agenda
13:55:46 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:55:51 <matatk> Chair:  Matthew
13:55:52 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:55:52 <matatk> agenda+ FAST Update - slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bQYDKiwv0Fc9HyA6TNzb6paQkQY9OouyH-SbaS2qtd8/edit#slide=id.gc6f73a04f_0_0
13:55:54 <matatk> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:55:57 <matatk> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:56:01 <matatk> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:56:03 <matatk> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
13:56:06 <matatk> agenda+ EPUB 3.3 review
13:56:09 <matatk> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
13:56:11 <matatk> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
13:56:14 <matatk> agenda+ Other Business
13:56:16 <matatk> agenda+ be done
13:56:22 <matatk> agenda?
13:56:33 <matatk> present+
13:56:37 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
13:56:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
13:58:07 <matatk> regrets+ Todd_Libby
13:58:19 <janina> agenda?
13:58:21 <matatk> regrets+ Niklas_Egger
13:58:43 <matatk> regrets+ Alisa_Smith
13:58:54 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
13:58:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
13:58:57 <PaulG> present+
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14:01:22 <janina> present+
14:01:25 <Irfan_Ali> present+
14:01:34 <Roy> present+
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14:03:36 <Gottfried> scribe: Gottfried
14:03:58 <Gottfried> agenda?
14:04:08 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:04:08 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
14:04:31 <Gottfried> No changes on agenda
14:04:35 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:04:35 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:04:36 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:04:36 <Zakim> 2. FAST Update - slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bQYDKiwv0Fc9HyA6TNzb6paQkQY9OouyH-SbaS2qtd8/edit#slide=id.gc6f73a04f_0_0 [from matatk]
14:04:40 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:04:40 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- FAST Update - slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bQYDKiwv0Fc9HyA6TNzb6paQkQY9OouyH-SbaS2qtd8/edit#slide=id.gc6f73a04f_0_0 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:05:13 <Gottfried> MichaelC: Presentation on Functional Needs (TPAC 2022)
14:06:07 <Gottfried> janina: This is intended to become an APA publication
14:06:19 <Gottfried> (Presentation will be made available by link)
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14:07:02 <nadine> present+
14:09:02 <Gottfried> q+ to ask about persons with balance impairment
14:12:09 <Gottfried> q+ to ask about UANs from EN 301 549 chp. 4
14:13:57 <matatk> scribe+ matatk
14:14:04 <matatk> Gottfried: Balance impairment is important for XR
14:14:14 <matatk> ... This would probably go into the Sensory category
14:14:31 <MichaelC> https://w3c.github.io/fast/#use-with-vestibular-issues
14:14:37 <matatk> MichaelC: We have 'use with vestibular issues' under sensory intersections right now. If we need more information about it, feedback is welcome.
14:15:07 <matatk> Gottfried: I know an expert in this area; could pass on details.
14:15:39 <matatk> Gottfried: Categorization of users has been done in a European standard. Maybe not ideal, but it's very widespread so worth consideration.
14:15:55 <matatk> MichaelC: I think we've looked at this (not claiming full coverage, though). Will need to keep looking at them.
14:16:12 <matatk> MichaelC: This has been an exercise of collecting from disparate sources, and trying to organize usefully.
14:16:19 <matatk> Gottfried: What about emotional mental health?
14:16:32 <matatk> ack Gottfried
14:16:32 <Zakim> Gottfried, you wanted to ask about persons with balance impairment and to ask about UANs from EN 301 549 chp. 4
14:16:46 <matatk> MichaelC: This is covered in the COGA feedback, which we're incorporating.
14:17:03 <Gottfried> Input for balance impairment: Making Virtual Reality More Accessible for Persons with Balance Impairments | Dr. John Quarles: https://xraccess.org/vr-balance-impairments/
14:17:13 <matatk> s/standard. Maybe/standard (EN 301 549 chp. 4). Maybe/
14:17:18 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:17:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:17:20 <Fazio> present+
14:17:33 <matatk> MichaelC: *Demos material proposed to be added wrt COGA concers on mental health*
14:17:50 <matatk> Gottfried: I like this approach; would be good to get to a widely accepted categorization. Useful for teaching.
14:17:55 <Gottfried> scribe: Gottfried
14:18:03 <MichaelC> q?
14:18:03 <Gottfried> ack
14:18:25 <matatk> scribe+ matatk
14:19:01 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:19:01 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:19:15 <Gottfried> Nothing new
14:19:20 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:19:20 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:19:21 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:19:21 <Zakim> 4. A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from matatk]
14:19:23 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:19:23 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from matatk]
14:19:35 <Gottfried> No issue
14:19:40 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:19:40 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:19:41 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:19:41 <Zakim> 5. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from matatk]
14:19:45 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:19:46 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from matatk]
14:19:49 <Roy> subtopic: Trace Context Level 2
14:19:49 <Roy> - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/trace-context-2/
14:19:49 <Roy> - tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Trace_Context_Level_2
14:19:49 <Roy> This specification defines standard HTTP headers and a value format to propagate context information that enables distributed tracing scenarios. 
14:20:39 <Gottfried> Roy: Spec defines standard HTTP headers
14:20:48 <Gottfried> ... for tracing scenarios
14:21:08 <Gottfried> ... Do not think that there are a11y considerations
14:21:33 <janina> q+
14:21:45 <matatk> ack janina
14:21:48 <Gottfried> matatk: I see they have Security and Privacy considerations, but no a11y considerations.  Problably not needed.
14:22:41 <Gottfried> janina: In HTTP 1, imposed by IETF, you were not allowed to transform the content. Is this still a concern?
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14:23:10 <Gottfried> matatk: Not as wide-reaching as HTTP
14:23:14 <Gottfried> ... Just adds some headers
14:24:13 <Gottfried> janina: Not fully convinced. We still have time because it is just a FWD.
14:24:32 <Gottfried> matatk: Can keep looking.
14:24:55 <Gottfried> janina: Maybe we can write that we have not identified anything special now, but we are not sure and will keep watching.
14:24:55 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:24:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:25:34 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:25:34 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from matatk]
14:26:23 <Gottfried> matatk: CfC regarding WebXR, device model
14:27:32 <matatk> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Oct/0007.html
14:27:58 <Gottfried> matatk: Does anybody have any specs that they are currently working on?
14:28:05 <Gottfried> (no response)
14:28:08 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:28:08 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- EPUB 3.3 review -- taken up [from matatk]
14:29:19 <Gottfried> matatk: Changes on 3 EPUB specs.
14:29:46 <Gottfried> ... New approach: keep publishing CRs, review on changes only.
14:30:02 <matatk> Here's what we've been asked to review: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/EPUB_3.3 (note the other two linked standards, Reading Systems and EPUB Accessibility)
14:30:23 <Gottfried> matatk: They provided us with links to the lists of changes since last year.
14:30:33 <Gottfried> s/year/year (3.2)
14:31:02 <Gottfried> ... Who can do the review?
14:31:22 <Gottfried> Gottfried: Timeframe?
14:31:35 <Gottfried> matatk: Not absolutely urgent, but they are expecting an answer from us.
14:31:47 <Gottfried> Fredrik: I could do it, but only late Nov or Dec.
14:32:18 <Gottfried> matatk: Some experts among us are already involved, but we should have a wider review.
14:32:40 <Gottfried> janina: Fredrik and I did this last year - i can do it with him now again - by end Nov.
14:33:49 <Gottfried> matatk: If anybody else would like to review soon - just let us know. Otherwise Fredrik and Janina will do this.
14:34:46 <Gottfried> ACTION: Fredrik and janina to review https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/EPUB_3.3 due Dec 14
14:34:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2329 - And janina to review https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/epub_3.3 due dec 14 [on Fredrik Fischer - due 2022-10-19].
14:35:07 <Gottfried> ACTION-2329 due 2022-12-14
14:35:07 <trackbot> Set ACTION-2329 And janina to review https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/epub_3.3 due dec 14 due date to 2022-12-14.
14:35:41 <Gottfried> ACTION: janina and Frederik to review https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/EPUB_3.3 due 2022-12-14
14:35:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2330 - And frederik to review https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/epub_3.3 due 2022-12-14 [on Janina Sajka - due 2022-10-19].
14:35:56 <Gottfried> ACTION 2330 due 2022-12-14
14:35:56 <trackbot> Error finding '2330'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
14:36:04 <Gottfried> ACTION-2330 due 2022-12-14
14:36:04 <trackbot> Set ACTION-2330 And frederik to review https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/epub_3.3 due 2022-12-14 due date to 2022-12-14.
14:36:36 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:36:36 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from matatk]
14:36:59 <Gottfried> No report on progress
14:37:03 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:37:03 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
14:37:04 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:37:04 <Zakim> 9. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from matatk]
14:37:08 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:37:08 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from matatk]
14:37:40 <Gottfried> SUBTOPIC: Coga
14:38:35 <Gottfried> Fazio: Has the documentation tool also things like slack?
14:39:09 <Gottfried> janina: There are multiple tool sets that are accessible and used by many people.
14:39:19 <Gottfried> ... But other persons find them problematic.
14:39:39 <Gottfried> ... We need to describe the exact problems so to be better working across all a11y needs.
14:39:58 <Gottfried> ... The first WD is intentionally sceletal. We are looking for comments to get more details.
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14:40:24 <Gottfried> Fazio: Will relay the message
14:40:39 <Gottfried> Fazio: No other updates from Coga
14:40:44 <Gottfried> SUBTOPIC: RQTF
14:40:51 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:40:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:40:55 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-rqtf-minutes.html#r01
14:41:17 <Roy> CTAUR CFC snapshot: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/ctaur/FPWD-2022/index.html
14:41:23 <Gottfried> janina: Resolution to ask APA for CfC.
14:42:00 <Gottfried> ... Roy has prepared a CfC. Will send to the group later today.
14:42:21 <Gottfried> ... Editorial changes during the CfC are always allowed.
14:42:35 <Gottfried> ... Due date is end of Dec because RQTF has a break now.
14:43:14 <Gottfried> Fredrik: How to pronounce CTAUR
14:43:35 <Gottfried> janina: "Setower"
14:43:45 <Gottfried> ... Was a big discussion...
14:44:01 <Gottfried> s/Setower/Seatower
14:45:18 <Gottfried> janina: Another major area for RQTF: Digital wallets.
14:45:45 <Gottfried> ... Interesting conversations already ongoing.
14:46:01 <Gottfried> ... What kinds of data can be transmitted?
14:46:48 <Gottfried> SUBTOPIC: Spoken presentation
14:47:02 <Gottfried> janina: Working on a request on W3C based on TPAC conversations.
14:47:12 <Gottfried> SUBTOPIC: Maturity model
14:47:21 <Gottfried> Fazio: No news
14:47:37 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:47:37 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from matatk]
14:47:57 <Gottfried> matatk: Next week on the agenda: CSS
14:48:22 <Gottfried> ... We are looking forward to increasing our relationship with CSS
14:48:55 <Gottfried> janina: We may need to mitigate between CSS and spoken presentation
14:49:46 <Gottfried> PaulG: Spoken pronunciation TF might need to change.
14:51:23 <Gottfried> Gottfried: Would be helpful if people could sign in to ZOOM under the same name as in IRC, or at least with the same starting letters. Would be much easier for scribes.
14:51:37 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:51:37 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- be done -- taken up [from matatk]
14:51:42 <Gottfried> zakim, close thisitem
14:51:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close thisitem', Gottfried
14:51:45 <Gottfried> zakim, close this item
14:51:45 <Zakim> agendum 11 closed
14:51:46 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
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14:52:50 <Gottfried> zakim, bye
14:52:50 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been matatk, Joshue108_, janina, niklasegger, Lionel_Wolberger, Fredrik, ToddL, PaulG, mike_beganyi, MichaelC, becky, IrfanAli, Fazio,
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14:52:59 <Gottfried> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:52:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/12-apa-minutes.html Gottfried
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