IRC log of coga on 2022-10-06
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- Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 06 October 2022
- 12:44:54 [lisa]
- agenda+ scribe sign up https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Scribe_list
- 12:45:05 [lisa]
- agenda+ updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc also look at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit#
- 12:45:12 [lisa]
- clear agenda
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- agenda+ scribe sign up https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Scribe_list
- 12:45:24 [lisa]
- agenda+ updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc also look at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit#
- 12:47:52 [lisa]
- agenda+ collaboration_Tool_Accessibility. Comments are at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit# . AND...doc to review: collaboration_Tool_Accessibility <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility
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- agenda+ EO update
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- agenda+ Recruiting (if time)
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- agenda?
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- Regrets: EA , Albert, Aaron, Kris Anne (partial)
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- RRSAgent, publish minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/06-coga-minutes.html lisa
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- ack next
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- present+
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- present+
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- scribe: Fazio
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- Introductions
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- present+
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- Welome Abbey
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- Lisa offers orientation session
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- q?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- scribe sign up https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Scribe_list -- taken up [from lisa]
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- Lisa: sign up for future scribing
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 was just opened, lisa
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- close item 1
- 14:12:09 [Fazio]
- Rain: Content Usable - structure brain storms shared with community group. meeting next week will evaluate brain storms. Qualitative study is coming close to completion
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- Lisa: Survey is ready
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- 14:13:21 [lisa]
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xXjHPCfWm00iAJqmjdwFq_RQ80vKwwxFAoiEGI3NOlM/edit#gid=1485617472
- 14:13:24 [julerawe]
- present+
- 14:14:38 [Fazio]
- Lisa:Research Documents Survey above
- 14:14:42 [kirkwood]
- link above is to COGA TF Survey Outreach Record
- 14:15:43 [Fazio]
- Lisa: Jenny: Images meeting tomorrow. Graphic designer changed jobs, but should be able to attend
- 14:16:41 [Fazio]
- Lisa: APA Verifiable credentials discussed
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- q+
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- Julie: Shadi says follow up questions helpful for EO scripts.
- 14:18:39 [Fazio]
- Julie: Videos tied to end of year funding
- 14:19:21 [lisa]
- ack next
- 14:21:57 [Fazio]
- Jennie: shares news on cognitive work she receives
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc also look at
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- ... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit# -- taken up [from lisa]
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- close item 2
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- collaboration_Tool_Accessibility. Comments are at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit# . AND...doc to review:
- 14:22:25 [Zakim]
- ... collaboration_Tool_Accessibility <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility -- taken up [from lisa]
- 14:22:34 [lisa]
- q+
- 14:22:45 [Jennie]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility
- 14:25:07 [Fazio]
- collaboration tool accessibility - Lisa concerned previous documents with coga concerns may not be in new doc
- 14:27:26 [Fazio]
- Jennie: how much does coga want to be vested in giving examples in collaboration tool doc?
- 14:28:07 [Jennie]
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit#
- 14:28:53 [Fazio]
- Jennie: Rain and Lisa can give access to Google doc
- 14:29:23 [Poornima]
- q+
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- ack next
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- Kirkwood: Header with clear purpose of doc is needed
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- ack next
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- Lisa: screen reader users seem to manage github better than coga. Ok that we have more issues in doc
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- 14:32:01 [Fazio]
- Poornima: how does this collaborative tool doc apply to websites?
- 14:32:32 [Fazio]
- Jennie: collaborative tools are used throughout W3C work.
- 14:32:55 [Jennie]
- q+
- 14:33:39 [Fazio]
- Poornima: are all accesibility barriers included in the issues in the doc?
- 14:33:58 [Fazio]
- Jennie: Feedback doc is specific to COGA
- 14:34:24 [lisa]
- ack next
- 14:34:26 [Fazio]
- Lisa: APA does a lot of user need reviews
- 14:35:31 [kirkwood]
- q+
- 14:35:37 [Fazio]
- Jennie: term collaborative tool has broader use case than just github. Should feedback be broader than just Github?
- 14:35:51 [kirkwood]
- suggestion, list the names of all tools as examples
- 14:35:59 [Fazio]
- Lisa: absolutely. Although main focus now is github
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- ack next
- 14:36:43 [Fazio]
- Jennie/Lisa: identify features without referencing vendor
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- Kirkwood: should name all tools
- 14:38:06 [lisa]
- google docs, github, excel online
- 14:38:08 [Fazio]
- Jennie: can we lis examples of tools from entire Task Force?
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- Slack
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- wikpedia editing mode
- 14:38:19 [kirkwood]
- google, docs, sheets, microsoft word, excel, ppt, github
- 14:38:40 [Rain]
- +1 to slack, it is definitely a collaboration tool
- 14:38:43 [Jennie]
- Team, Microsoft Office tools like Word and Excel, SharePoint
- 14:38:43 [Rachael]
- slack, google docs, irc, email, surveys
- 14:38:57 [Poornima]
- Google docs, Chat function (on websites like Gmail)?, Slack, Microsoft Teams,
- 14:39:30 [Jennie]
- q+
- 14:39:38 [kirkwood]
- I don’t think we should do chat? would we need to do email as well?
- 14:40:06 [Fazio]
- Lisa: Are chat systems in scope?
- 14:41:00 [kirkwood]
- no to slack
- 14:41:19 [Poornima]
- No to Chat
- 14:41:41 [AbbeyD]
- q+
- 14:41:43 [Poornima]
- Figma?
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- ack next
- 14:42:03 [kirkwood]
- agee with collaborating editing tools
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- s/colloaborating/collaborative
- 14:42:48 [Fazio]
- Jennie: IRC may fit. collaborating on minutes may apply.
- 14:42:51 [Fazio]
- +1
- 14:43:30 [kirkwood]
- respectfully disagree
- 14:43:33 [Fazio]
- Technically I think Jennie is correct
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- No worries John :)
- 14:43:54 [Poornima]
- How about Skype and Google Meet?
- 14:44:16 [kirkwood]
- think it shouldn’t include IRC
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- ack next
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- and zoom too :)
- 14:45:08 [kirkwood]
- good point there are many design tools like figma
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- Abby: does this include products like Figma?
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- I can bring the scope question up in APA next week
- 14:46:24 [kirkwood]
- Adobe has many as well
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- q+
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- ack next
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- Lisa: Action Items - Clarify scope, review previous versions for inclusion, write up issues, begin with known products in scope. Don't worry about redundancy
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- Where and how do you want feedback?
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- q?
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- Jennie: add feedback in as comments?
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- Lisa: may not work for long comments
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- Kirkwood: prefers comments
- 14:50:50 [Fazio]
- Poornima: prefers comments
- 14:51:15 [lisa]
- document for your comments: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit#
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- Jennie's email: jennie.delisi@state.mn.us
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- Lisa: add comments to list or write to Lisa or Jennie
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- q?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- EO update -- taken up [from lisa]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 was just opened, lisa
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- close item 4
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- Recruiting (if time) -- taken up [from lisa]
- 14:55:41 [Fazio]
- Lisa: recruiting research organizations related to coga is important
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- https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.6co50luve41b
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- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DoohB2-tREjXx7PF6sCi3jLt6OrjE1ciAb0Dcb7FgyU/edit#heading=h.fuatm6qk6a2h
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- Lisa: we want feedback from current researchers
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- topic: mental health
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- agenda+ Litary review questions
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- agenda+ Analsis update, Discusion (if time)
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- close item 5
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- home page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Subgroups/Mental_Health mental health reaserch tracking: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XWmikm5Ein5CQ02knEJ5iGzO1YJMilTMBJ_aLVCTzs0/edit#heading=h.bc4vqyklmnk0 Please add your review at [Form for adding new reserch]: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeGrqJKV7RluoYrKHJN8cBJH3w9sDx7lAlAhcV0BeBTUVybkw/viewform spreadsheet with papers reviewed so far:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet[CUT]
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