12:44:45 RRSAgent has joined #coga 12:44:45 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/10/06-coga-irc 12:44:47 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:44:50 Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference 12:44:50 Date: 06 October 2022 12:44:54 agenda+ scribe sign up https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Scribe_list 12:45:05 agenda+ updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc also look at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit# 12:45:12 clear agenda 12:45:19 agenda+ scribe sign up https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Scribe_list 12:45:24 agenda+ updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc also look at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit# 12:47:52 agenda+ collaboration_Tool_Accessibility. Comments are at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit# . AND...doc to review: collaboration_Tool_Accessibility agenda+ EO update 12:48:24 agenda+ Recruiting (if time) 12:58:13 kirkwood has joined #COGA 13:41:39 lisa has joined #coga 13:41:49 agenda? 13:47:24 Fazio has joined #coga 13:49:40 MichaelC has joined #coga 13:51:45 Regrets: EA , Albert, Aaron, Kris Anne (partial) 13:53:46 RRSAgent, publish minutes 13:53:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/06-coga-minutes.html lisa 13:53:51 ack next 13:59:25 Jennie has joined #coga 13:59:32 AbbeyD has joined #coga 13:59:56 present+ 14:00:54 ShawnT has joined #coga 14:00:58 rashmi has joined #coga 14:01:02 present+ 14:01:31 scribe: Fazio 14:01:40 present+ 14:01:43 present+ 14:01:45 present+ 14:01:56 present+ 14:02:12 Introductions 14:02:51 present+ 14:03:27 Welome Abbey 14:03:50 Poornima has joined #coga 14:03:59 present+ 14:04:00 Rain has joined #coga 14:04:03 present+ 14:04:10 present+ 14:04:54 Lisa offers orientation session 14:09:16 q? 14:09:37 zakim, next item 14:09:37 agendum 1 -- scribe sign up https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Scribe_list -- taken up [from lisa] 14:10:08 Lisa: sign up for future scribing 14:10:18 zakim, next item 14:10:18 agendum 1 was just opened, lisa 14:10:24 close item 1 14:12:09 Rain: Content Usable - structure brain storms shared with community group. meeting next week will evaluate brain storms. Qualitative study is coming close to completion 14:13:18 Lisa: Survey is ready 14:13:20 julerawe has joined #coga 14:13:21 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xXjHPCfWm00iAJqmjdwFq_RQ80vKwwxFAoiEGI3NOlM/edit#gid=1485617472 14:13:24 present+ 14:14:38 Lisa:Research Documents Survey above 14:14:42 link above is to COGA TF Survey Outreach Record 14:15:43 Lisa: Jenny: Images meeting tomorrow. Graphic designer changed jobs, but should be able to attend 14:16:41 Lisa: APA Verifiable credentials discussed 14:16:44 q+ 14:18:13 Julie: Shadi says follow up questions helpful for EO scripts. 14:18:39 Julie: Videos tied to end of year funding 14:19:21 ack next 14:21:57 Jennie: shares news on cognitive work she receives 14:22:03 zakim, next item 14:22:03 agendum 2 -- updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.1bvszq5s0esc also look at 14:22:06 ... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_pV-lbgorW2oihIB4EdONOFN0EcRmBAkmUEEPdTAEw/edit# -- taken up [from lisa] 14:22:16 close item 2 14:22:20 zakim, next item 14:22:25 agendum 3 -- collaboration_Tool_Accessibility. Comments are at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit# . AND...doc to review: 14:22:25 ... collaboration_Tool_Accessibility q+ 14:22:45 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility 14:25:07 collaboration tool accessibility - Lisa concerned previous documents with coga concerns may not be in new doc 14:27:26 Jennie: how much does coga want to be vested in giving examples in collaboration tool doc? 14:28:07 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit# 14:28:53 Jennie: Rain and Lisa can give access to Google doc 14:29:23 q+ 14:29:36 ack next 14:29:46 Kirkwood: Header with clear purpose of doc is needed 14:30:32 ack next 14:30:43 Lisa: screen reader users seem to manage github better than coga. Ok that we have more issues in doc 14:31:37 krisanne has joined #coga 14:32:01 Poornima: how does this collaborative tool doc apply to websites? 14:32:32 Jennie: collaborative tools are used throughout W3C work. 14:32:55 q+ 14:33:39 Poornima: are all accesibility barriers included in the issues in the doc? 14:33:58 Jennie: Feedback doc is specific to COGA 14:34:24 ack next 14:34:26 Lisa: APA does a lot of user need reviews 14:35:31 q+ 14:35:37 Jennie: term collaborative tool has broader use case than just github. Should feedback be broader than just Github? 14:35:51 suggestion, list the names of all tools as examples 14:35:59 Lisa: absolutely. Although main focus now is github 14:36:42 ack next 14:36:43 Jennie/Lisa: identify features without referencing vendor 14:37:04 Kirkwood: should name all tools 14:38:06 google docs, github, excel online 14:38:08 Jennie: can we lis examples of tools from entire Task Force? 14:38:12 Slack 14:38:15 wikpedia editing mode 14:38:19 google, docs, sheets, microsoft word, excel, ppt, github 14:38:40 +1 to slack, it is definitely a collaboration tool 14:38:43 Team, Microsoft Office tools like Word and Excel, SharePoint 14:38:43 slack, google docs, irc, email, surveys 14:38:57 Google docs, Chat function (on websites like Gmail)?, Slack, Microsoft Teams, 14:39:30 q+ 14:39:38 I don’t think we should do chat? would we need to do email as well? 14:40:06 Lisa: Are chat systems in scope? 14:41:00 no to slack 14:41:19 No to Chat 14:41:41 q+ 14:41:43 Figma? 14:41:57 ack next 14:42:03 agee with collaborating editing tools 14:42:26 s/colloaborating/collaborative 14:42:48 Jennie: IRC may fit. collaborating on minutes may apply. 14:42:51 +1 14:43:30 respectfully disagree 14:43:33 Technically I think Jennie is correct 14:43:44 No worries John :) 14:43:54 How about Skype and Google Meet? 14:44:16 think it shouldn’t include IRC 14:44:18 ack next 14:44:28 and zoom too :) 14:45:08 good point there are many design tools like figma 14:45:26 Abby: does this include products like Figma? 14:45:51 I can bring the scope question up in APA next week 14:46:24 Adobe has many as well 14:48:34 q+ 14:48:52 ack next 14:48:59 Lisa: Action Items - Clarify scope, review previous versions for inclusion, write up issues, begin with known products in scope. Don't worry about redundancy 14:49:05 Where and how do you want feedback? 14:49:22 q? 14:49:42 Jennie: add feedback in as comments? 14:49:57 Lisa: may not work for long comments 14:50:08 Kirkwood: prefers comments 14:50:50 Poornima: prefers comments 14:51:15 document for your comments: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1odt2eWGeJT06S2xdW2H3ymTHOTa0QWkscNSEphNI1og/edit# 14:51:25 JustineP has joined #coga 14:52:06 Jennie's email: jennie.delisi@state.mn.us 14:52:07 Lisa: add comments to list or write to Lisa or Jennie 14:53:18 q? 14:53:58 zakim, next item 14:53:58 agendum 4 -- EO update -- taken up [from lisa] 14:54:04 zakim, next item 14:54:04 agendum 4 was just opened, lisa 14:54:13 close item 4 14:54:22 zakim, next item 14:54:22 agendum 5 -- Recruiting (if time) -- taken up [from lisa] 14:55:41 Lisa: recruiting research organizations related to coga is important 14:55:45 https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.6co50luve41b 14:56:18 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DoohB2-tREjXx7PF6sCi3jLt6OrjE1ciAb0Dcb7FgyU/edit#heading=h.fuatm6qk6a2h 14:56:57 Lisa: we want feedback from current researchers 14:58:01 rrsagent, make minutes 14:58:01 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/06-coga-minutes.html Fazio 14:58:24 topic: mental health 14:58:36 agenda+ Litary review questions 14:58:48 agenda+ Analsis update, Discusion (if time) 14:59:02 close item 5 15:05:19 home page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Subgroups/Mental_Health mental health reaserch tracking: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XWmikm5Ein5CQ02knEJ5iGzO1YJMilTMBJ_aLVCTzs0/edit#heading=h.bc4vqyklmnk0 Please add your review at [Form for adding new reserch]: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeGrqJKV7RluoYrKHJN8cBJH3w9sDx7lAlAhcV0BeBTUVybkw/viewform spreadsheet with papers reviewed so far:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet[CUT] 15:21:01 Jennifer has joined #coga 15:21:13 join 15:56:37 kirkwood has joined #COGA 16:54:09 kirkwood has joined #COGA 17:49:32 kirkwood has joined #COGA 18:03:15 bkardell_ has joined #coga 18:17:47 kirkwood has joined #COGA 19:53:24 kirkwood has joined #COGA 23:08:03 kirkwood has joined #COGA 23:18:30 kirkwood has joined #COGA 23:25:02 kirkwood has joined #COGA