IRC log of coga on 2022-10-06

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Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 06 October 2022
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agenda+ scribe sign up
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agenda+ updates and actions also look at
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clear agenda
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agenda+ scribe sign up
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agenda+ updates and actions also look at
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agenda+ collaboration_Tool_Accessibility. Comments are at . AND...doc to review: collaboration_Tool_Accessibility <
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agenda+ EO update
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agenda+ Recruiting (if time)
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Regrets: EA , Albert, Aaron, Kris Anne (partial)
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scribe: Fazio
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Welome Abbey
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Lisa offers orientation session
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agendum 1 -- scribe sign up -- taken up [from lisa]
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Lisa: sign up for future scribing
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agendum 1 was just opened, lisa
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close item 1
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Rain: Content Usable - structure brain storms shared with community group. meeting next week will evaluate brain storms. Qualitative study is coming close to completion
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Lisa: Survey is ready
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Lisa:Research Documents Survey above
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link above is to COGA TF Survey Outreach Record
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Lisa: Jenny: Images meeting tomorrow. Graphic designer changed jobs, but should be able to attend
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Lisa: APA Verifiable credentials discussed
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Julie: Shadi says follow up questions helpful for EO scripts.
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Julie: Videos tied to end of year funding
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Jennie: shares news on cognitive work she receives
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agendum 2 -- updates and actions also look at
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agendum 3 -- collaboration_Tool_Accessibility. Comments are at . AND...doc to review:
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collaboration tool accessibility - Lisa concerned previous documents with coga concerns may not be in new doc
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Jennie: how much does coga want to be vested in giving examples in collaboration tool doc?
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Jennie: Rain and Lisa can give access to Google doc
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Kirkwood: Header with clear purpose of doc is needed
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Lisa: screen reader users seem to manage github better than coga. Ok that we have more issues in doc
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Poornima: how does this collaborative tool doc apply to websites?
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Jennie: collaborative tools are used throughout W3C work.
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Poornima: are all accesibility barriers included in the issues in the doc?
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Jennie: Feedback doc is specific to COGA
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Lisa: APA does a lot of user need reviews
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Jennie: term collaborative tool has broader use case than just github. Should feedback be broader than just Github?
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suggestion, list the names of all tools as examples
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Lisa: absolutely. Although main focus now is github
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Jennie/Lisa: identify features without referencing vendor
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Kirkwood: should name all tools
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google docs, github, excel online
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Jennie: can we lis examples of tools from entire Task Force?
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wikpedia editing mode
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google, docs, sheets, microsoft word, excel, ppt, github
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+1 to slack, it is definitely a collaboration tool
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Team, Microsoft Office tools like Word and Excel, SharePoint
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slack, google docs, irc, email, surveys
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Google docs, Chat function (on websites like Gmail)?, Slack, Microsoft Teams,
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14:39:38 [kirkwood]
I don’t think we should do chat? would we need to do email as well?
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Lisa: Are chat systems in scope?
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no to slack
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No to Chat
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agee with collaborating editing tools
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Jennie: IRC may fit. collaborating on minutes may apply.
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14:43:30 [kirkwood]
respectfully disagree
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Technically I think Jennie is correct
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No worries John :)
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How about Skype and Google Meet?
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think it shouldn’t include IRC
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and zoom too :)
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good point there are many design tools like figma
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Abby: does this include products like Figma?
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I can bring the scope question up in APA next week
14:46:24 [kirkwood]
Adobe has many as well
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Lisa: Action Items - Clarify scope, review previous versions for inclusion, write up issues, begin with known products in scope. Don't worry about redundancy
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Where and how do you want feedback?
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Jennie: add feedback in as comments?
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Lisa: may not work for long comments
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Kirkwood: prefers comments
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Poornima: prefers comments
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document for your comments:
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Jennie's email:
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Lisa: add comments to list or write to Lisa or Jennie
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agendum 4 -- EO update -- taken up [from lisa]
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agendum 4 was just opened, lisa
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close item 4
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agendum 5 -- Recruiting (if time) -- taken up [from lisa]
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Lisa: recruiting research organizations related to coga is important
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Lisa: we want feedback from current researchers
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topic: mental health
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agenda+ Litary review questions
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agenda+ Analsis update, Discusion (if time)
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close item 5
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home page: mental health reaserch tracking: Please add your review at [Form for adding new reserch]: spreadsheet with papers reviewed so far:[CUT]
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