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19:04:38 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
19:04:38 <trackbot> Date: 26 September 2022
19:04:52 <jjdg> present+
19:05:30 <Kim_patch> Agenda  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DrVuynTwhf1IfFdDq6C1ClrNiaulD4aHQCoXDJ9myn0/edit?usp=sharing
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19:06:13 <Kim_patch> TOPIC new spreadsheet
19:06:15 <Kim_patch> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DrVuynTwhf1IfFdDq6C1ClrNiaulD4aHQCoXDJ9myn0/edit?usp=sharing
19:10:17 <jjdg> TOPIC https://beta.appt.org
19:10:53 <Kim_patch> JJ: the whole thing will be open source
19:12:16 <Kim_patch> JJ: Appt Beta Info highlights – more than 10% of people use two or more devices
19:12:49 <Kim_patch> JJ: Disabilities versus abilities versus permanent or situational
19:13:25 <Kim_patch> JJ: more information in futures. Android and iOS next to each other to compare. Most settings are available in both platforms
19:15:04 <Kim_patch> JJ: iOS audio settings – differences in iOS/android captions use, same with dark mode – Looking into reasons. Seeing how deeply in the settings these are
19:16:51 <Kim_patch> JJ: data collection, analytics is already open source. Haven't received any negative messages about data collection.
19:17:52 <Kim_patch> JJ: there's an API reference, Still building. Shows properties that are inherited. Looking for feedback from developers on this
19:18:32 <Kim_patch> JJ: I've been spending most of my time include samples – 22, available for all platforms. These are linked to success criteria. Drop-down lets you switch platforms.
19:19:59 <Kim_patch> JJ: all the code samples are on the left see see them at once. There will be more. Are we going to do deeper on some platforms – still figuring out
19:20:34 <Kim_patch> JJ: all three guidelines EN and Section 508
19:22:09 <Kim_patch> JJ: still hard to know exactly what you need to do, but this is a first pass. Summary, impact, check, solution, sometimes example, support for video. Pick your programming language and go to all of the guidelines and see how to implement.
19:22:31 <Kim_patch> JJ: 22 code samples but not all of them have been embedded
19:23:33 <Kim_patch> JJ: we have documentation on disabilities, still working on, assistive technologies for using apps – in-depth articles. For instance outback has a large page all the gestures, videos, Keyboard access we have all the keyboard commands.
19:24:05 <Kim_patch> JJ: In-depth articles so people learn how to use the excessive technologies. It's also available in Dutch.
19:24:35 <Kim_patch> JJ: looking for more partners
19:25:22 <Kim_patch> JJ: also looking for authors for articles
19:25:36 <Kim_patch> JJ: October we are testing get feedback and
19:26:00 <Kim_patch> Mick: super impressive.
19:26:05 <Kim_patch> +1
19:26:37 <Kim_patch> JJ: we been getting good responses – mostly on slack and twitter
19:27:20 <Kim_patch> JJ: 5000 Page views in the first four days
19:28:57 <Kim_patch> Mick: having that quick action to flip Between libraries is really useful. Have the guidelines broken down – three different types is really helpful. It's a great Go to. It does seem more developer focus but there's more out there for design.
19:29:58 <Kim_patch> JJ: at first we were considering multiple groups – designers, even product owners but we shifted to developers because we have all these code samples. It does change how you write the articles. It's a little different how a developer uses talkback as opposed to a designer or manager. Maybe in the future more documentation.
19:30:44 <Kim_patch> JJ: That's something we are figuring out. We are adding some interviews as well. People with disabilities and how they use their phone – what kind of settings they use. I think there should also be video.
19:31:02 <Kim_patch> JJ: People – why they are doing this, how It helps them
19:31:20 <Kim_patch> Mick: Asking about the name
19:31:57 <Kim_patch> JJ: makes sense in Dutch – everyone should be able to use
19:40:51 <Kim_patch> JJ: we plan to do audits and embed the code examples inside our reports – this is something other companies can do – companies can request access, API
19:50:52 <jjdg> Kim: explains 2.1 Keyboard background - Indie UI
19:51:13 <jjdg> Topic: WCAG 2.2 new succes criteria
19:56:19 <jjdg> Why Section 508 and EN 301 549 exclude 3.2.3 Consistent Navigation and 3.2.4 Consistent Identification
19:56:33 <jjdg> Gaps because it's hard to test
20:02:37 <Kim_patch> Next meeting next week
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20:19:37 <Kim_patch> Present+ Kim, Mick
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