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19:03:22 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
19:03:22 <trackbot> Date: 19 September 2022
19:03:31 <Kim_patch> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DrVuynTwhf1IfFdDq6C1ClrNiaulD4aHQCoXDJ9myn0/edit#
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19:06:02 <jjdg> +present
19:10:21 <Kim_patch> TOPIC: introductions
19:11:52 <Kim_patch> Poornima: Accessibility testing, Now working accessibility testing for cruise industry. Was in the silver subgroup.
19:13:10 <Kim_patch> JJ: Focused around Accessibility, 10 years, App foundation mobile accessibility, developers – share code examples, everything a developer should know. Also do consulting – everything around making Apps accessible..
19:14:23 <Kim_patch> Mick: background in front-end development but for the last five six years working with accessibility, last four years focal point for mobile trying to create standards for company, testing protocols – that's what brought here
19:15:28 <Kim_patch> TOPIC: update from JJ on appt – Lunching during inclusive design 24 ID24
19:16:04 <Kim_patch> s/Lunching/launching
19:17:47 <Kim_patch> Sign up form for appt.org beta is https://appt.org
19:17:57 <Kim_patch> Launch during #ID24: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD7bqZ7K5VQ&list=PLn7dsvRdQEfHjluJsuzNto9PFhAsG3Hwb&index=12
19:19:14 <Kim_patch> Can share more after the official launch
19:19:42 <Kim_patch> JJ more than 100 code examples
19:20:06 <Kim_patch> JJ they are all linked to WCAG, including plain English
19:21:00 <Kim_patch> Name, role Value, information relationships done – there is still lots to be done. Aiming to be done the end of this year with all code examples
19:21:57 <Kim_patch> JJ: covers most used programming languages
19:22:18 <Kim_patch> JJ: making it easy to add coding examples
19:23:51 <Kim_patch> JJ: we use the official titles but only change the description plain language
19:24:40 <Kim_patch> Poornima: guidelines in progress for native apps or are we just trying to adapt existing guidelines for native apps
19:25:22 <Kim_patch> Mick: Best we can do 2.2 is convert
19:26:07 <Kim_patch> Poornima: there are shortfalls in native apps. Some features are available and some are not. So on those situations how we are going to satisfy the WCAG guidelines – are we making any exceptions there for the native apps?
19:30:23 <jjdg> Issues with SC 1.4.4 - Resize text in Mobile Apps: https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/issues/4#issuecomment-1148810084
19:32:04 <Kim_patch> TOPIC: updating sheets
19:32:38 <Kim_patch> Poornima: I can add to user constraints
19:35:01 <Kim_patch> Poornima: mobile device features – iOS
19:35:44 <Kim_patch> JJ: exception missing for mobile apps 1.4.4, for example – not appropriate for mobile
19:49:38 <Kim_patch> TOPIC: new spreadsheet – what's missing
19:50:13 <Kim_patch> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-SM3PY-phoBN4v3PStawv0fYV3RudhuLLLwoGixDOtg/edit#gid=0
19:52:51 <Kim_patch> Poornima: From TPAC qualitative and quantitative testing, Socioeconomic issues, aging population, accessibility support for User agents
19:57:30 <Kim_patch> s / whats missing/ How 2.2 relates to Mobile and What's Missing
19:58:17 <Kim_patch> Present+ Kim, JJ, Poornima, Mick
19:58:37 <Kim_patch>  zakim, list participants
19:58:37 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been present, Kim, JJ, Poornima, Mick
19:58:48 <Kim_patch> chair: Kimberly_Patch
20:01:07 <Kim_patch> Adding this to the other four spreadsheets. The idea is to paint a picture of research, features and what's needed
20:01:11 <Kim_patch> Next meeting next week – September 26
20:01:23 <Kim_patch> rrsagent, make minutes
20:01:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/19-matf-minutes.html Kim_patch