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14:06:15 <dom> Meeting: Common Impact Data Standard  - TPAC 2022 breakout
14:06:19 <dom> Chair: Alicia_Richins
14:06:25 <dom> Agenda:  https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/1999960c-2599-4b2f-ac8f-10cb6388d5ed#agenda
14:06:33 <dom> RRSAgent, make log public
14:06:35 <dom> RRSAgent, this meeting spans midnight
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16:12:15 <dom> agenda+ breakout
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18:29:16 <wseltzer> https://www.commonapproach.org/
18:29:26 <wseltzer> https://www.commonapproach.org/common-impact-data-standard/
18:30:31 <wseltzer> https://www.commonapproach.org/what-is-impact-measurement/
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18:39:23 <aliciarichins_> https://www.canva.com/design/DAFLdrk6jJ4/j1LaWpAmljJmLFmJn4vndg/view?utm_content=DAFLdrk6jJ4&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link&utm_source=publishsharelink
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18:40:25 <martin_alvarez_> q+
18:40:25 <aliciarichins_> ontology document: https://www.commonapproach.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Common-Impact-Data-Standard-V1.1.pdf
18:40:32 <wseltzer> Topic: Q&A
18:40:46 <wseltzer> mcf: are there European counterparts
18:41:14 <wseltzer> aliciarichins_: [mentioned a few], always happy to make more connections
18:41:37 <wseltzer> Joe_M: How do you ensure the comparability of two data sets you're comparing, apples to apples?
18:42:20 <wseltzer> MarkF: two levels, specificaiton of the impact model, stakeholders, outcomes trying to achieve for those stakeholders, and how impact will be measured
18:42:26 <wseltzer> ... how outcomes are reported
18:43:14 <wseltzer> ... characteristics of the stakeholders are described
18:43:29 <wseltzer> ... using taxonomies published by 3d party organizations
18:44:37 <wseltzer> ... outcomes are described similarly, referring to taxonomies from poressional organizations
18:44:43 <aliciarichins_> How CIDS relates to other data standards: https://commonapproach.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/CommonApproachImpactDataStandards-Fit-with-other-standards-DrKerr.pdf
18:44:49 <wseltzer> ... we integrate with 3d party taxonomies
18:44:56 <wseltzer> ... To measure outcomes, we use indicators
18:45:10 <wseltzer> ... there's an ontology for representation of indicators, ISO-IEC standard
18:45:58 <aliciarichins_> Case study that elucidates the roll up of dissimilar indicators: https://www.commonapproach.org/case-study-summary-using-the-common-impact-data-standard-and-common-framework/
18:46:09 <wseltzer> ... indicator ontology decomposes indicators into components
18:46:40 <wseltzer> ... enables cross-org comparisons
18:46:53 <wseltzer> aliciarichins_: I shared a link above showing the methodology ^
18:47:45 <wseltzer> martin_alvarez_: this could be a good methodology to be implemented by the Web Foundation
18:47:59 <wseltzer> ... good showcase, measuring the impact of the web
18:48:22 <martin_alvarez_> q-
18:48:37 <wseltzer> aliciarichins_: will you support development of a WG around this work at W3C
18:50:51 <marie> wendy: you could go through a Community Group to drive interest and build a community around that topic
18:51:54 <marie> ... there might be some existing groups so to talk with and see if there is an helpful overlap
18:52:10 <marie> s/with/to
18:55:04 <marie> wendy: there is a large SW community in W3C, might be less active these days ...
18:55:39 <marie> ... if you create a CG, there is an auto tweet from @w3c that help communicate what you intend to do
18:56:26 <marie> ... a question to ask forehand is "what do you want to get from the W3C standardization process"
18:57:35 <wseltzer> Joe_M: Speaking individually, I'm hearing from the builders of web specs that they're looking for something actionable
18:58:37 <wseltzer> ... e.g. understanding how people in low income communities use phones and data
18:59:27 <wseltzer> aliciarichins_: our work is at the organization level, not the client; what kind of impact measurement are the orgs using
19:02:17 <wseltzer> MarkF: The Common Approach group has done work on training organizations on impact management
19:03:08 <wseltzer> ... how many social impact organizations have work with Common Approach?
19:03:18 <wseltzer> aliciarichins_: in the thousands.
19:05:06 <wseltzer> ... We're looking to expand into the W3C community
19:06:28 <wseltzer> Bart: +1, we'd like to connect with broader community
19:07:23 <wseltzer> Daniela: excited to see the project expand
19:07:46 <wseltzer> Bart: enocourage people to look at the extended study on ArchiveX
19:07:48 <aliciarichins_> Link to that work with Helpseeker and the Canadian Digital Supercluser project: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2206.11061.pdf
19:08:18 <aliciarichins_> Alicia.richins@commonapproach.org
19:08:53 <wseltzer> rrsagent, draft minutes
19:08:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/14-cids-minutes.html wseltzer
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21:59:51 <dom> RRSAgent, bye
21:59:51 <RRSAgent> I see no action items