15:33:42 RRSAgent has joined #dpvcg 15:33:42 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/09/07-dpvcg-irc 15:33:49 ScribeNick: harsh 15:33:52 Meeting: DPVCG Meeting Call 15:33:55 Chair: harsh 15:34:00 Date: 07 SEP 2022 15:34:10 Present: harsh, paul, georg, julian, beatriz 15:34:32 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2022Sep/0004.html 15:38:50 Topic: ODRL-CG and DPVCG at TPAC 15:40:31 See event details and agenda - https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/845fa609-cc65-414f-8960-3fff0c4c0467 15:41:33 harsh, beatriz, georg, paul, victor will be present from DPVCG 15:42:33 Others are welcome to join, please let us (harsh, victor) know if possible so we can keep track of participation 15:42:39 Topic: Next Meeting 15:43:21 we will be holding the next meeting on SEP-21 13:00 WEST / 14:00 CEST as most regular members are away at conference or on vacation next week 15:43:33 Topic: DPV v1 planning 15:50:33 The original schedule for DPV v1 estimated the release around September. That plan is no longer viable as there are several items pending, mostly related to documentation. 15:52:59 The group discussed today what does "v1" should mean - where based on convention the first version implies some notion of stability in terms of non-changes and completeness 15:54:23 For this, we consider whether 1) are any core concepts missing 2) any pertinent issues that must be resolved 3) have developed resources been applied and are useful 15:54:55 The discussion yieded the following - we have identified the core concepts and none seem to be missing. 15:55:42 The missing sections refer to concepts that can be added as research is completed. These refer to exercising of rights, data breach records, standards, complaint procedures. 15:56:12 There is a lack of documentation, but the underlying concepts are deemed to be (fairly) complete. 15:56:42 Therefore the specification can be put on a "release candidate" track (suggested by Julian) to invite specific comments with a view towards publishing as v1 15:57:05 We keep the tentative date for this as OCT-15 to invite comments, after which we will resolve them and publish a v1. 15:57:47 In the meantime, we put a freeze on making major changes (large additions avoided, minor corrections are okay). 15:58:32 Volunteers for assisting with the documentation are needed and are invited to select what best suits their capabilities and interests 15:58:49 For documentation, harsh is updating the primer - https://harshp.com/dpv-x/primer/, which contains notes on what sections and diagrams need changes and updating 15:59:07 Similar changes are to be made to the specification i.e. adding textual descriptions to each section for introducing the concepts and structures. 15:59:55 A list of use-cases is proposed to be created and added to show completeness of considerations that went into creating the DPV concepts. harsh has a proposal to automate this by creating a page for listing them - https://harshp.com/dpv-x/use-cases/ 16:00:12 Similarly, examples can be listed as proposed here - https://harshp.com/dpv-x/examples/ 16:01:11 A list of things that volunteers can help with is available here - https://github.com/w3c/dpv/issues 16:02:42 In addition to these, DPVCG has also planned to provide guides (explanation on DPV's concepts) for risk management, DPIA, ROPA, and consent - that provide an overview on what concepts within DPV are needed for each application 16:03:09 In addition, and at a later date, some 'tutorials' that explain in a step-by-step manner how to implement DPV within some use-case would also provide helpful for adoption. 16:04:49 Volunteers who want to implement specific things, e.g. write a section on technical measures - should let the group know of their interest so as to co-ordinate work. They are free to write and share it in whatever format they prefer (e.g. plain text, .docx, Google Docs). 16:05:33 Topic: Rights 16:06:13 DPV has the notion of Right and DataSubjectRight, with GDPR specific ones in DPV-GDPR. The group has previously discussed that these should be expanded to provide practical concepts necessary for exercising the rights and representing the process and their responses. 16:10:01 Taking the example of GDPR's SAR and Data Portability (and other rights) the group agrees that it would be better to have DPV provide a basic notion of rights exercise (e.g. property `hasRightsExercise`), with the additional concepts (which are detailed and several) to be provided in the rights extension. 16:10:17 DPV-GDPR then implements this extension for the specific requirements of its rights, i.e. SAR and Data Portability and others. 16:10:35 rrsagent, published minutes v2 16:10:35 I'm logging. I don't understand 'published minutes v2', harsh. Try /msg RRSAgent help 16:10:40 rrsagent, make logs world-visible 16:11:01 rrsagent, publishe minutes v2 16:11:01 I'm logging. I don't understand 'publishe minutes v2', harsh. Try /msg RRSAgent help 16:11:04 rrsagent, publish minutes v2 16:11:04 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/07-dpvcg-minutes.html harsh 16:11:33 rrsagent, make logs world-visible 16:14:32 rrsagent, bye 16:14:32 I see no action items