20:39:01 RRSAgent has joined #dxwgdcat 20:39:01 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-irc 20:39:19 RRSAgent, draft minutes 20:39:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni 20:39:25 RRSAgent, make logs public 20:39:37 RRSAgent, draft minutes 20:39:37 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni 20:39:52 meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup 20:40:00 zakim, start meeting 20:40:00 RRSAgent, make logs Public 20:40:01 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), riccardoAlbertoni 20:40:13 meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup 20:40:22 RRSAgent, draft minutes 20:40:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni 21:02:44 DaveBrowning has joined #dxwgdcat 21:04:23 nobu_ogura has joined #dxwgdcat 21:04:23 AndreaPerego has joined #dxwgdcat 21:07:23 Chair: RiccardoAlbertoni 21:07:46 present+ 21:07:54 present+ 21:08:00 present+ 21:08:04 scribenick: AndreaPerego 21:08:05 present+ 21:08:10 RRSAgent, draft minutes 21:08:10 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:08:19 topic: approve last meeting minutes 21:08:24 PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/05/17-dxwgdcat-minutes 21:08:31 0 (not present) 21:08:35 +1 21:08:39 +1 21:09:06 +1 21:09:14 RESOLVED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/05/17-dxwgdcat-minutes 21:09:22 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2022.09.06 21:09:23 topic: approve agenda 21:09:27 agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2022.09.06 21:09:33 RRSAgent, draft minutes 21:09:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:10:12 topic: TAG review 21:10:15 RRSAgent, draft minutes 21:10:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:10:30 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1530 21:11:46 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1531 21:11:50 riccardoAlbertoni: There are two main points raised. 21:12:03 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/b66821760ab23b3c580efda261236466cf46a758/docs/explainer.md 21:12:15 riccardoAlbertoni: The PR above updates the explainer as requested. 21:12:41 ... I added some sentences in the DCAT history, and I copied the main changes. 21:13:15 ... I tried also to explain the notions of dataset series and versioning. 21:13:40 ... And also the process we usually go through. 21:14:56 riccardoAlbertoni: Do you think my revision goes in the right direction? 21:15:00 AndreaPerego: +1 21:15:11 q+ 21:15:22 ack dave 21:16:18 DaveBrowning: I think this is going in the right direction. 21:16:55 ... Notably, we didn't have much push-back on the new features. 21:17:00 q+ 21:17:13 ... Not sure if a description of process is something they asked. 21:17:19 ack riccardoAlbertoni 21:18:45 riccardoAlbertoni: One thing is that at least some issues about versioning were also touching dataset series. 21:19:26 ... So, they are kind of linked, and motivates the presence of both these new features. 21:20:01 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/projects/10 21:20:50 riccardoAlbertoni: We actually still have 3 issues open about dataset series. 21:20:51 q+ 21:22:43 ack AndreaPerego 21:24:54 ... We have to consider whether to keep them or move them to future work. 21:25:28 AndreaPerego: My impression is that these issues are related to dataset series, but they actually refer to features not supported in DCAT at the moment. 21:25:41 ... It may be relevant to the future evolution of DCAT. 21:26:34 riccardoAlbertoni: I'm actually wondering whether, after DCAT3 is out, we should consider running a new round of UCR collection. 21:27:09 AndreaPerego: It could be an option. 21:27:11 +1 21:27:36 +1 21:27:42 riccardoAlbertoni: So, my proposal is to move these issues in a specific sprint about new features. 21:27:43 +1 21:27:49 +1 21:27:54 +1 21:28:37 resolved: More issues in https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/projects/10 to a sprint on new features 21:28:44 resolved: Move issues in https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/projects/10 to a sprint on new features 21:29:04 s/resolved/proposed/ 21:29:05 s/resolved/proposed/ 21:29:14 RRSAgent, draft minutes 21:29:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:29:41 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1513 21:29:50 resolved: Move issues in https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/projects/10 to a sprint on new features 21:30:09 riccardoAlbertoni: The other point of the TAG review is about dcat:first etc. 21:30:39 ... Their question is also about re-usability. 21:30:59 ... And, actually, we haven't specified domain and range restrictions. 21:31:41 ... So, we can mention that, and we have clarified their use in examples. 21:32:00 ... Does this make sense to you? Or should we move this issue to future requirements? 21:32:02 q+ 21:32:08 ack AndreaPerego 21:33:50 AndreaPerego: +1 from me to your proposal, riccardoAlbertoni 21:34:38 riccardoAlbertoni: I drafted a reply accessible from the link above. 21:34:58 ... But: is using RDF lists and added value? 21:35:01 q+ 21:35:06 ack AndreaPerego 21:38:17 AndreaPerego: With these properties we didn't mean to describe something similar to RDF lists. We have been inspired from the same properties from the XHTML vocabulary, and they correspond to the relevant relation types from the IANA registry. 21:39:11 s/inspire from/inspire by/ 21:39:14 RRSAgent, draft minutes 21:39:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:39:24 s/inspired from/inspired by/ 21:39:24 RRSAgent, draft minutes 21:39:24 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:39:34 https://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab#prev 21:41:02 https://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/ 21:41:15 q+ 21:42:10 ack AndreaPerego 21:47:51 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/created_by/npdoty 21:48:07 topic: Privacy WG review 21:48:09 RRSAgent, draft minutes 21:48:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego 21:49:06 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1526 21:49:44 riccardoAlbertoni: Any opinion about the issue they raise about security attacks? 21:49:47 q+ 21:49:56 ack andrea 21:50:00 ack AndreaPerego 21:54:38 AndreaPerego: I have the impression that security cannot be addressed by DCAT itself, but it rather depends on how data and metadata are managed, published, etc. 21:55:00 ... Maybe we can ask them how they would address these issues in DCAT. 21:55:32 q+ 21:55:40 ack DaveBrowning 21:55:58 ... BTW, we had some feedback in relation to encryption that may point to a possible new feature in DCAT. 21:56:55 DaveBrowning: I am not aware of a use case that could be relevant here. So, it may be worth finding it before proceeding. 21:57:54 ... We probably raise this in the plenary. 21:58:14 s/We probably /We should probably / 21:58:19 RRSAgent, draft minutes 21:58:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego 22:00:26 ... My feeling is security is something more related to the infrastructure. As such, it may be relevant to data services. 22:01:50 riccardoAlbertoni: So, let's bring this up in the plenary, and then decide how to proceed. 22:03:10 [meeting adjourned] 22:03:13 RRSAgent, draft minutes 22:03:13 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego