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11:12:53 <cris> dp: we had a short meeting last time
11:12:54 <dape> TOPIC: Previous minutes
11:13:07 <dape> -> August-22 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/22-wot-script-minutes.html
11:13:32 <cris> dp: we talked about quick updates
11:13:38 <cris> ... the minutes looks good
11:13:47 <cris> ... we can remove empty sections
11:19:19 <cris> ... any objections?
11:19:23 <cris> ... ok minutes approved
11:19:28 <cris> topic: Quick updates
11:19:58 <cris> dp: it is pre-tpac week
11:20:13 <cris> ... it seems that every call will take place as usual
11:20:23 <cris> ... only main and testing calls are canceled
11:20:42 <cris> ... today I would like to discuss not the technical aspect but the agenda
11:20:54 <cris> ... I will ask mccool for a scripting slot
11:21:22 <cris> ... just notice that the next two meetings are cancelled
11:21:37 <cris> topic: TPAC Agenda
11:21:50 <cris> dp: I created threee different slots
11:22:01 <cris> ... one is the working mode for the next charter
11:22:09 <cris> ... different options:
11:22:37 <cris> ... stay in the Working Group and write an Informative Note
11:23:08 <cris> ... stay in WG but create a Formal Note (note track) . In this case we can have a conformance section
11:23:17 <cris> ... WG, REC track
11:23:39 <cris> ... and finally Community Group but there we don't have any W3C team support
11:24:04 <cris> ... in my understanding kaz can provide two slides with pro and cons about these four options
11:24:23 <kaz> s/two/one or two/
11:24:29 <cris> ... what do you think about this agenda point?
11:24:33 <cris> q+
11:27:09 <cris> cris: I agree that we must discuss this with high priority. About the options my personal take would be to go with the 2nd option. is not that I don't like the others but I think they are harder to achive
11:27:25 <cris> dp: I agree
11:27:31 <cris> ack c
11:27:33 <kaz> q|
11:27:33 <cris> q?
11:27:34 <kaz> q+
11:27:38 <kaz> s/q|//
11:28:18 <cris> kaz: the options here are not really correct ( the terminology can be improved)
11:29:10 <cris> dp: Ok fixed
11:29:45 <cris> kaz: the problem is that people are not familiar with the latest status of the "process" document
11:30:08 <cris> ... I'd like to describe the essence of the document to everybody
11:30:13 <cris> dp: I totally agree
11:30:51 <cris> q+
11:32:05 <cris> kaz: also the community groud produce a community group reoport and it is not endorsed by the W3C
11:33:43 <cris> ... notice that this information is reported by the status section in each document type
11:37:57 <cris> ... originally this presentation about the latest status of the process document was planned during the recharting presentation
11:38:13 <cris> dp: ok then we can try to schedule scripting discussion after it
11:40:25 <cris> kaz: we need to think also about potential push backs for the new charter
11:41:02 <cris> ... there is not just pro/cons but a rather complex mix of view points
11:42:46 <cris> ... anything else to add here?
11:42:49 <Mizushima> q+
11:42:55 <kaz> ack k
11:42:57 <cris> ... should we collect pro/cons that we see?
11:43:22 <cris> mizushima: I would not add CG among the options
11:43:28 <cris> ... the direction of the group is not clear
11:43:54 <cris> ... there is no deliverables defined
11:44:17 <cris> dp: I agree I would not go to the CG
11:44:23 <kaz> q+
11:44:32 <kaz> ack m
11:44:35 <cris> ... the point was raised by Zoltan to reach for a wider contributor pool
11:45:05 <cris> mizushima: CG is the last option
11:45:15 <cris> q?
11:45:32 <cris> ack c
11:45:39 <cris> cris: I agree
11:46:26 <cris> kaz: if we talk about these options we should also include people opinion
11:48:47 <cris> subtopic: Breaking changes
11:48:52 <kaz> ack k
11:48:55 <kaz> chair: Daniel
11:49:00 <cris> dp: we can discuss about Exposing process
11:49:11 <cris> ... also about discovery API
11:49:14 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:49:20 <kaz> regrets+ Zoltan
11:49:24 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:49:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:49:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:49:36 <cris> ... do you have something that you want to present to the group
11:50:18 <cris> ... also actions support
11:51:16 <kaz> s/dp: we had a short meeting last time//
11:51:29 <kaz> i/we talked about quick/dp: we had a short meeting last time/
11:51:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:51:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:52:07 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
11:52:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:52:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:52:26 <cris> cris: I think we can discuss also additionalResponses and error codes
11:52:31 <cris> dp: I agree
11:52:42 <kaz> s/threee/three/
11:53:07 <kaz> i/one is the/subtopic: Working mode for Scripting API/
11:53:10 <cris> subtopic: Next charter
11:53:22 <cris> dp: mccool asked to report next charter topics
11:53:32 <cris> ... I collected some options
11:53:46 <kaz> s/people opinion/people's preference, why they would like to go for which option/
11:53:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:53:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:54:51 <cris> ... Discovery Alignment, TD profile support
11:55:01 <cris> ... also management API
11:55:31 <cris> ... finally, we can try to bring our API to project fugu
11:57:01 <cris> cris: about the last one we have a blocker: we need to define discovery api correctly
11:57:02 <kaz> q+
11:57:11 <cris> dp: any other topics to discuss?
11:57:40 <cris> kaz: during the Architecture call and testing call we discussed about how to test architecture specification
11:58:07 <cris> ... it seems that there are some assertions in the Architecture that are relevant to scripting implementations
11:58:35 <cris> ... it seems that we can have an implementation report also for scripting api
11:58:51 <cris> ... then how should we test a scripting API implementation?
11:59:48 <cris> ... also we should clarify the relationship between Architecture and Scripting.
12:00:39 <kaz> s/and testing/and the Testing/
12:00:54 <kaz> s/ we disc/, we disc/
12:01:06 <kaz> s/discussed about/discussed/
12:01:22 <cris> dp: anything else to discuss?
12:01:56 <cris> ... feel free to ping me if you want to add more topics
12:02:15 <cris> ... aob?
12:02:31 <cris> [adjourned]
12:02:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:02:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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12:03:48 <kaz> rrsagent, bye
12:03:48 <RRSAgent> I see no action items