14:01:45 RRSAgent has joined #wot-discovery 14:01:45 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-irc 14:01:49 meeting: WoT Discovery 14:02:30 ktoumura has joined #wot-discovery 14:03:52 acimmino has joined #wot-discovery 14:04:33 cris_ has joined #wot-discovery 14:09:21 scribenick: glomb 14:09:53 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Andrea_Cimmino, Christian_Glomb, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Farshi_Tavakolizadeh, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 14:11:11 Minutes from last meeting - approved 14:11:53 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/395 14:12:34 Farshid will fix collisions 14:12:56 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/405 14:15:11 Suggestions from McCool added 14:15:12 i/Minutes from/topic: Minutes/ 14:15:22 i|Minutes from|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-wot-discovery-minutes.html Aug-29| 14:15:39 i/395/topic: PR 395/ 14:15:46 i/405/topic: PR 405/ 14:15:56 rrsagent, make log public 14:16:00 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:16:00 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:16:41 mccool: Both UDP and TCP service names, more work for MDNS discoverer 14:17:11 mccool: What about CoAP over TCP? 14:18:03 toumura: No implementation available yet 14:19:55 q+ 14:20:06 mccool: Should we drop protocol column such that there could be any protocol over TCP/UDP? 14:20:15 mccool: Cannot be tested 14:20:21 q? 14:20:22 ack c 14:21:40 cristiano: How to identify protocol? TLS vs. non-TLS? 14:22:36 mDNS response should clarify it 14:24:37 cristiano: Should be in the URL -> http / https / coap / coaps 14:24:51 mccool: Or another parameter 14:26:32 Default http - CoAP special case 14:27:26 mccool: Concerns about multiple broadcasts 14:28:16 q+ 14:29:08 McCool captures comments in the issue 14:36:09 PR merged, but needs to be updated 14:36:15 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/406 14:36:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:36:18 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:36:43 chair: McCool 14:37:59 mccool: Ambiguous assertions 14:38:34 ack c 14:39:47 +1 for the changes 14:40:00 ... are resolved by this PR 14:40:34 i/406/topic: PR 406/ 14:40:49 Merged 14:41:02 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/407 14:41:11 i/407/topic: PR 407/ 14:42:01 Loosens statement about geo-location 14:42:24 Merged 14:42:33 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/408 14:42:58 i/408/topic: PR 408/ 14:43:02 Editorial fix, merged 14:43:23 s/PR 406/PR 406: Refine DID assertions/ 14:43:39 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/395 (now fixed by Farshid) 14:44:36 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:44:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:45:25 s/PR 395/PR 395: Reduce restrictions on error codes for unsupported features/ 14:45:28 Merged 14:45:46 s/PR 405/PR 405: Update DNS-SD section/ 14:46:11 s/PR 407/PR 407: Remove stray mention of geolocation/ 14:46:27 s/PR 408/PR 408: editorial: Remove extra word in example/ 14:46:33 mccool: Current draft should be CR candidate 14:46:46 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:46:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:48:53 proposal: put forward the current editor's draft, after proposed improvements to the DNS-SD method in https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/405#issuecomment-1237134489, as the CR Candidate for WoT Discovery, and begin the 2wk review process by at the latest Wednesday Sept 7. 14:49:36 proposal: put forward the current editor's draft, after proposed improvements to the DNS-SD method in https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/405#issuecomment-1237134489 (PR to be prepared by Toumura and reviewed and merged by McCool), as the CR Candidate for WoT Discovery, and begin the 2wk review process by at the latest Wednesday Sept 7. 14:51:11 resolution: put forward the current editor's draft, after proposed improvements to the DNS-SD method in https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/405#issuecomment-1237134489 (PR to be prepared by Toumura and reviewed and merged by McCool), as the CR Candidate for WoT Discovery, and begin the 2wk review process by at the latest Wednesday Sept 7. 14:52:44 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/ w/ labels "Resolve by CR" and "Discuss" 14:53:02 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/165 14:53:57 i/labels/topic: Issues/ 14:54:09 Deferred to 2.0 14:54:37 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/190 14:54:44 i/165/subtopic: Issue 165: Add Ability to Retrieve Original TD/ 14:55:06 i/190/subtopic: Resolve TD/Thing ID Semantics (was Reconsider @type ThingID)/ 14:55:12 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:55:12 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:55:42 s/topic: PR/subtopic: PR/ 14:56:05 i/PR 395:/topic: PRs/ 14:56:07 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:56:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:56:07 farshid: Could add an assertion 14:57:17 s/topic: PR/subtopic: PR/ 14:57:18 Deferred to 2.0 14:57:19 s/topic: PR/subtopic: PR/ 14:57:23 s/topic: PR/subtopic: PR/ 14:57:27 s/topic: PR/subtopic: PR/ 14:57:29 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:57:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:57:36 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/185 14:57:59 farshid: No good solution for this 14:58:04 i/185/subtopic: Issue 185: OAuth2 and SSE Notificiations/ 14:58:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:58:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:59:11 Could add informative text in post-CR 14:59:38 Marked as "Resolve by PR" 14:59:51 s/subsubsubsubsubtopic:/subtopic: 15:00:10 s/topic: PR 407/subtopic: PR 407/ 15:00:15 s/topic: PR 406/subtopic: PR 406/ 15:00:26 s/topic: PR 405/subtopic: PR 405/ 15:00:33 subtopic: Issue 96 15:00:37 s/topic: PR 395/subtopic: PR 395/ 15:00:40 mc: we went on this long time ago 15:00:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:00:44 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 15:00:48 ... I added a security-tracker label 15:01:19 i/we went on/scribenick: cris_/ 15:01:20 ... basically we concluded that there is an unrelated issue 15:01:29 ... no time to resolve that by CR 15:03:51 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:03:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 15:04:32 s/Issue 96/Issue 96: Should security be mandatory on directories for WoT Discovery?/ 15:04:54 i|we went|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/96| 15:07:24 ... I don't understand where the issue is coming from. I think it is stale or already fixed 15:08:39 ... any objection for closing the issue? 15:08:44 ... ok closed 15:08:58 subtopic: Issue 209 15:09:15 mc: I can't see how we are going to solve this in the time we have 15:09:23 ... we can defer it for 2.0 15:09:33 ... is it something we still care about? 15:10:08 andrea: it was something about the validation/signing of arrays in TDs 15:11:22 cris: it is more a TD issue than discovery 15:11:36 mc: right, adding a convert to TD label 15:13:05 subtopic: Issue 157 15:13:22 mc: I established that the issue is resolved. 15:13:31 ... any objections ? 15:13:32 ... closed 15:13:54 subtopic: Issue 187 15:14:33 mc: we have a PR inflight, still in progress 15:14:45 ... changing the label to resolved by PR 15:15:22 kaz: there might be impacts to implementers 15:16:16 s/Issue 209/Issue 209: Thing Description Framing/ 15:16:28 i|I can't see|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/209| 15:16:59 s/Issue 157/Issue 157: Better explain HTTP focus/ 15:17:35 i|I established|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/157| 15:17:52 mc: go back to resolve by CR label because we need to fix the DNS naming 15:18:00 subtopic: Issue 148 15:18:08 i/Issue 187/Issue 187: Registration of Well-known URI, DNS-SD and DID Service Names, CoRE Resource Type/ 15:18:25 i|we have a PR|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/187| 15:18:36 mc: it seems that we don't have the related PR 15:18:43 s/have a PR/have a Pullrequest/ 15:18:48 s/by PR/by Proposed REC/ 15:19:01 andrea: just remember to uplaod the new ontology and context file to that namespace 15:19:16 mc: can we use GitHub ? 15:20:52 ... no we can't, but we have to upload the ontology to the new namespace 15:21:32 ... We can always use the Github url for testing purposes 15:22:04 s/there might be impacts to implementers/the important criteria is whether there are any normative changes which would impact existing implementations./ 15:24:08 subtopic: Issue 283 15:24:29 andrea: I have some issues that I would like to discuss with farshid but I can do it later 15:24:39 subtopic: Issue 340 15:25:22 mc: regarding Size2 option in coap 15:26:02 ... it is slightly inconsistent but it is too late to fix. It is not a breaking issue 15:26:37 subtopic: Issue 381 15:27:57 mc: not understand 15:28:01 cris: it should not be an issue 15:28:55 mc: I would like to close Propose Close issues 15:29:13 ... ping there if you feel otherwise 15:29:24 ... closing the meeting 15:29:54 s/Issue 283/Issue 283: Organize Testing/ 15:30:23 i|I have some|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/283| 15:32:01 s/Issue 340/Issue 340: Improve TD Server for protocols/ 15:33:17 i|regarding Size2|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/340| 15:34:00 s|Issue 381|Issue 381: What should the server do if a user submits a Thing Description with POST request on /things which contains an id in the body?| 15:34:18 i|not understand|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/381| 15:34:23 [adjourned] 15:34:47 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:34:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/05-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 23:43:58 kaz has joined #wot-discovery