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16:56:42 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jamesn
16:56:46 <jamesn> meeting: ARIA WG
16:56:51 <jamesn> chair: spectranaut
16:57:02 <jamesn> agendabot, find agenda
16:57:02 <agendabot> jamesn, OK. This may take a minute...
16:57:03 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/2b92a902-1365-4ea0-8c68-9f8ae2106fe3/20220901T130000
16:57:03 <agendabot> clear agenda
16:57:03 <agendabot> agenda+  -> New Issue Triage https://bit.ly/3AwdDy9
16:57:03 <agendabot> agenda+  -> New PR Triage https://bit.ly/3cv1e5A
16:57:05 <agendabot> agenda+  -> TPAC Agenda https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
16:57:08 <agendabot> agenda+  -> tracking issue for <dialog> & role=dialog https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1708
16:57:11 <agendabot> agenda+  -> Support aria-description https://github.com/w3c/accname/pull/69
16:57:14 <agendabot> agenda+  -> ARIA Open PR Triage https://github.com/w3c/aria/pulls
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17:01:16 <MarkMcCarthy> present+
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17:02:26 <pkra> scribe: pkra
17:02:40 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:02:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- -> New Issue Triage https://bit.ly/3AwdDy9 -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:03:27 <pkra> spectranaut: 2 new issues for link-target etc
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17:04:00 <pkra> jnurthen: we've talked about it in the past. expose "opens in new window" etc for wcag.
17:04:17 <pkra> jcraig: do we need to do something or is this a browser should?
17:04:29 <pkra> jnurthen: it's not exposed, right?
17:04:45 <pkra> jcraig: but authors shouldn't have to, right?
17:04:59 <pkra> jnurthen: yes, that's the AAM issue.
17:05:11 <CurtBellew> present+
17:05:36 <pkra> jcraig: but technically we don't have to have it as an aria version?
17:05:46 <pkra> aaron: but for a div with role link and parity.
17:06:00 <StefanS> present+
17:06:22 <pkra> jamesn: keeps things in sync. if we ask browsers to expose it, we might want somethign in aria
17:06:30 <pkra> jcraig: case of first rule of aria though.
17:06:44 <pkra> jnurthen: true. don't really care how they expose it.
17:07:08 <pkra> jcraig: right. but let's not add something unnecessary.
17:08:00 <pkra> jnurthen: interesting that we've had this forever. It's just firefox that doesn't support text alt for CSS Images since that's the usual implementation
17:08:28 <pkra> spectranaut: perhaps we should have a dedicated discussion
17:08:41 <pkra> pkra: scotto had more in his proposal.
17:08:50 <pkra> aaron: let's do the HTML first and then continue.
17:08:57 <pkra> spectranaut: sounds good; please comment.
17:08:59 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:08:59 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- -> New PR Triage https://bit.ly/3cv1e5A -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:09:35 <pkra> spectranaut: aria#1768. Any reviewers?
17:09:54 <pkra> chlane: I'll review
17:09:56 <pkra> pkra: me too
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17:10:19 <pkra> spectranaut: aria#1783
17:10:28 <pkra> ... not quite editorial due to user MUST
17:10:48 <pkra> jcraig: will review.
17:11:01 <pkra> spectranaut: html-aam#433.
17:11:14 <pkra> ... accessible description revision
17:11:34 <pkra> ... aaron can you review?
17:11:52 <pkra> aaron: not sure I can fit it in
17:11:54 <pkra> bryan: will review
17:12:18 <pkra> jcraig: I had some comments. anyon know if they were addressed?
17:12:22 <pkra> bryan: add melanie?
17:12:45 <pkra> jnurthen: add me.
17:12:58 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:12:58 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- -> TPAC Agenda https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022 -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:13:48 <pkra> spectranaut: please check wiki and add any remaining requests
17:14:17 <pkra> ... each topic should have 1 person responsible, setting goals (feedback / plans for next steps / problem resolution)
17:14:49 <pkra> cyns: would like to add: reconsider if we need a CSS AAM
17:15:05 <pkra> jnurthen: probably hard to find time with CSS
17:15:13 <pkra> aaron: might go with css toggle discussion
17:15:32 <pkra> cyns: ok
17:15:44 <pkra> aaron: would be good to have Tab call in. I'll ping him.
17:16:18 <pkra> jnurthen: suggest to add on our end on Thursday so we have time before we talk to CSS folks
17:16:41 <pkra> cyns: do we know who's remote?
17:16:49 <pkra> jnurthen: no, just registrations
17:17:06 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:17:06 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- -> tracking issue for <dialog> & role=dialog https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1708 -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:17:13 <jamesn> https://www.w3.org/register/tpac2022/registrants
17:18:50 <pkra> spectranaut: mostly an announcement to keep track
17:19:29 <pkra> ... mattking wrote a long piece on dialogs; it would be good for everyone to read this before TPAC.
17:19:44 <pkra> jnurthen: this will take time to read and digest. please prepar.
17:20:26 <pkra> aaron: would be good to have a time where James Teh could join
17:20:56 <pkra> jcraig: I'd like to pull in other webkit people where we'll need buy in.
17:21:35 <pkra> jnurthen: if there's anything else where we want James Teh with us, we should shift if he can make it.
17:22:05 <pkra> spectranaut: any other topics we should move?
17:22:16 <pkra> aaron: maybe ask James
17:22:57 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:22:57 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- -> Support aria-description https://github.com/w3c/accname/pull/69 -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:23:35 <pkra> spectranaut:  this was blocked but scottos changes should have unblocked it
17:24:01 <pkra> jnurthen: reviewers are assigned. hopefully, this will unblock it.
17:24:03 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:24:03 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- -> ARIA Open PR Triage https://github.com/w3c/aria/pulls -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:25:19 <pkra> jnurthen: aria#1745.
17:26:02 <pkra> ... 3 reviews, ready to merge.
17:26:30 <pkra> jnurthen: aria#1738.
17:26:37 <pkra> ... comments need addressing by me.
17:27:39 <pkra> jnurthen: aria#1705.
17:27:44 <pkra> sarah: will take another look
17:27:58 <pkra> jnurthen: aria#1639.
17:28:04 <pkra> ... aaron, jcraig can you review?
17:28:47 <pkra> ... aria#1588
17:29:04 <pkra> ... a test case.
17:29:38 <pkra> spectranaut: I'll take this over.
17:29:49 <pkra> jnurthen: aria#1494
17:30:04 <pkra> ... scotto and me want to take it over
17:30:51 <pkra> ... the rest are draft, or take over or F2F.
17:30:59 <pkra> spectranaut: so everyone: get back to review :)
17:31:25 <pkra> jnurthen: otherwise: if there's anything else for TPAC, speak up very soon
17:32:18 <pkra> RRS agent: make minutes
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