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11:45:18 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jeanne
11:45:34 <jeanne> Meeting: WCAG3 Equity Subgroup
11:45:34 <jeanne> present:
11:45:34 <jeanne> chair: Janina, jeanne
11:45:34 <jeanne> present+
11:45:34 <jeanne> zakim, clear agenda
11:45:34 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
11:45:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-wcag3-equity-minutes.html jeanne
11:45:34 <jeanne> q?
11:45:34 <jeanne> === Conformance ===
11:45:34 <Zakim> agenda cleared
11:45:39 <jeanne> zakim, start meeting
11:45:39 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
11:45:39 <jeanne> Meeting: Silver Conformance Subgroup
11:45:39 <jeanne> present:
11:45:39 <jeanne> chair: sajkaj
11:45:40 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jeanne
11:45:40 <jeanne> present+
11:45:40 <jeanne> zakim, clear agenda
11:45:40 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
11:45:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-wcag3-equity-minutes.html jeanne
11:45:40 <Zakim> agenda cleared
11:48:04 <jeanne> agenda+ Review feedback from AGWG meeting
11:48:22 <jeanne> agenda+ Review PR for the Requirements document
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12:01:26 <janina> agenda?
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12:02:55 <jeanne> zakim, take up item 1
12:02:55 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Review feedback from AGWG meeting -- taken up [from jeanne]
12:02:58 <MichaelC> present+
12:03:08 <janina> present+
12:03:15 <laura> scribe: Laura
12:04:18 <laura> jannina: glad we went first at ag meeting.
12:04:37 <laura> ... jeanne did a great job. Very happy.
12:04:52 <janina> q?
12:05:52 <laura> ... wilco was off topic on measurablity.
12:06:55 <laura> jen: he is on tesitng sub group an that may have had an impact.
12:07:09 <laura> ... people are imperfect.
12:07:58 <laura> ... may be suck in testing.
12:08:35 <laura> mc: not feedback from that meeting.
12:09:07 <jenniferS> q+
12:09:16 <MichaelC> q+
12:09:25 <laura> jeanna: How will this play at TPAC? Ideas on hoe to move forward.
12:09:26 <janina> ack jen
12:09:43 <laura> jen:  be stratigec in how er convey it.
12:10:13 <laura> ... thnings may become possible even if they are not possible today.
12:10:31 <janina> q+
12:11:07 <laura> ... we should always be aiming for equity in your outcomes.
12:11:16 <laura> ... some of this is hard.
12:11:23 <jeanne> q+ to say to inlcude "avoid prioritization by functional need" - recommend prioritize by context
12:11:34 <laura> ... technology takes time.
12:11:37 <janina> ack mi
12:12:07 <laura> mc: pull request is a big part of how this will land in AG.
12:12:28 <laura> ... maybe show the PR and the explain.
12:12:39 <laura> ... we need to be actionable.
12:13:07 <laura> ... both in guidlines and process.
12:13:11 <MichaelC> ack me
12:13:26 <MichaelC> ack ja
12:14:33 <laura> janina: some things may be unlikely. May need to take them to the lab.
12:14:55 <laura> ... Need to be practical and actionable.
12:15:08 <MichaelC> q+ to say making unknowns known is an action - but not the first one
12:15:11 <jenniferS> q+
12:15:12 <janina> ack ja
12:15:17 <laura> ... document things.
12:15:21 <jeanne> ack je
12:15:25 <janina> ack je
12:15:25 <Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to say to inlcude "avoid prioritization by functional need" - recommend prioritize by context
12:15:53 <laura> jeanne: would like to avoid priority by funtional need.
12:16:12 <jenniferS> Can you provide an example of what that would look like, Jeanne?
12:16:17 <MichaelC> ack me
12:16:17 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say making unknowns known is an action - but not the first one
12:16:20 <janina> ack mi
12:16:35 <janina> q?
12:16:42 <jenniferS> where did I go?
12:16:45 <jenniferS> 1+
12:16:49 <laura> MC: level of detailthat is too much for this PR
12:16:54 <jenniferS> q+
12:17:02 <laura> ... focus on actionable stepss
12:17:52 <laura> ... if equity needs to be a cyiclical process if we are to be taken seriously.
12:18:04 <janina> ack je
12:18:14 <laura> ... start with what we got.
12:18:39 <laura> jen: example of don't do this.
12:18:52 <laura> jeanne: A, AA, AAA
12:19:15 <janina> q?
12:20:01 <laura> mc: A, AA, AAA not intentionally inequiable but it worked out that way.
12:20:03 <jeanne> zakim, take up next
12:20:03 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Review PR for the Requirements document -- taken up [from jeanne]
12:20:15 <MichaelC> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/silver/equity-proposal/requirements/index.html#equity
12:20:20 <laura> zakim, next item
12:20:20 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, laura
12:21:02 <laura> mc: starts with editors notes
12:21:27 <laura> ...  (Reads PR)
12:22:14 <jenniferS> "relevant user groups" — may need some explanation, could attract ire
12:22:36 <janina> q?
12:25:28 <janina> q?
12:25:36 <jenniferS> q+
12:25:42 <janina> ack je
12:26:00 <laura> jen: "relevant user groups" — may need some explanation, could attract ire
12:26:32 <laura> MC: suggestion for a different word?
12:26:39 <jeanne> q+ to say that I like it, Issue Severity proposal is heading toward priority by Functional Need. That's why I think we need it for TPAC.
12:27:18 <laura> jen: accessibility specific?
12:27:27 <laura> MC: yes.
12:27:55 <laura> (group wordsmithing)
12:28:26 <laura> jen: that's good.
12:28:41 <jenniferS> That's good enough! The word "relevant" was the one I worried about.
12:28:46 <janina> ack jea
12:28:46 <Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to say that I like it, Issue Severity proposal is heading toward priority by Functional Need. That's why I think we need it for TPAC.
12:29:10 <laura> jeanne: like what you have done.
12:29:32 <MichaelC> q+
12:29:37 <janina> ack mi
12:29:54 <laura> ... concerned that issue severity is heading in in conflict  with equity.
12:30:24 <laura> mc: may want to come up with some measurements in the next 6 months.
12:30:34 <jeanne> +1 for a six month project, not 1 week
12:31:07 <laura> ... where structual equities may exist, etcc.
12:31:14 <janina> q?
12:31:19 <laura> ... will be n acive work item job.
12:31:42 <jenniferS> No objection here with the one edit. Thank you for the work on this!
12:32:08 <laura> MC: what is the next step?
12:32:32 <laura> janina: not sure.
12:34:00 <janina> +1 from Jeanne (only on phone)
12:34:02 <laura> Laura: +1
12:34:02 <janina> +1
12:34:05 <jenniferS> +1
12:34:26 <laura> RESOLUTION: accept PR 654 https://github.com/w3c/silver/pull/654 as a proposal to the WG
12:35:05 <laura> mc: will sent to the chairs.
12:36:02 <laura> ... equity is on the agenda at 1PM at TPAC.
12:36:20 <jenniferS> Thank you Michael!
12:37:56 <laura> rrsagent, make minutes
12:37:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-wcag3-equity-minutes.html laura
12:38:32 <laura> present+ Laura_Carlson
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12:40:28 <laura> s/measurablity/measurability/
12:41:03 <laura> s/tesitng /testing /
12:41:27 <laura> s/an that /and that /
12:41:28 <Cyborg> can't find zoom call today...
12:42:10 <laura> the meeting just ended
12:42:33 <Cyborg> oh...any way to catch up on what i missed?
12:43:16 <laura> I will be sending out the minutes.
12:43:50 <laura> s/guidlines  /guidelines  /
12:44:25 <laura> s/stratigec in how er /strategic in how we /
12:44:40 <Cyborg> it seems to still be going?
12:45:02 <laura> I am fixing typos in irc
12:45:21 <laura> s/thnings /thnings/
12:45:57 <laura> s/funtional /functional /
12:46:27 <laura> s/level of detailthat  /that level of detail
12:46:57 <laura> s/stepss/steps/
12:47:17 <laura> s/cyiclical /cyclical /
12:47:57 <laura> s/example/ It there an example/
12:48:28 <laura> s/inequiable /inequitable /
12:49:19 <laura> s/structual /structural /
12:49:46 <laura> s/, etcc./, etc./
12:50:18 <laura> s/will be n acive /will be an active /
12:51:21 <laura> rrsagent, make minutes
12:51:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-wcag3-equity-minutes.html laura
12:55:53 <laura> s/thningsmay become /thnings may become /
12:56:26 <laura> s/thnings/things/
12:56:50 <laura> s/guidlines /guidelines  /
12:57:32 <laura> s/level of detailthat /that level of detail /
12:59:26 <laura> s/at 1PM /Monday at 1PM /
13:00:32 <laura> rrsagent, make minutes
13:00:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-wcag3-equity-minutes.html laura
13:01:58 <laura> s/not feedback/no specific feedback/
13:03:03 <laura> s/hoe to/how to/
13:03:25 <laura> rrsagent, make minutes
13:03:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-wcag3-equity-minutes.html laura
13:05:16 <laura> zakim, end meeting
13:05:16 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jeanne, jenniferS, MichaelC, janina, Laura_Carlson
13:05:18 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:05:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/29-wcag3-equity-minutes.html Zakim
13:05:21 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, laura; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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