12:00:03 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:00:03 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-wot-irc 12:01:07 meeting: WoT-IG/WG 12:01:13 present+ Kaz_Ashimura 12:01:54 Mizushima has joined #wot 12:01:59 ktoumura has joined #wot 12:02:05 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 12:02:31 present+ Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:02:35 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#24_August_2022 12:03:41 mjk has joined #wot 12:04:42 present+ Daniel_Peintner 12:05:47 zkis has joined #wot 12:06:06 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 12:06:42 matsuda has joined #wot 12:07:53 McCool_ has joined #wot 12:08:33 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda, Michael_McCool 12:08:58 scribenick: mjk 12:09:13 dape has joined #wot 12:09:35 topic: Minutes 12:09:36 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/17-wot-minutes.html Aug-17 12:10:11 topic: review minutes from August 17th 12:13:11 mm: any issues or corrections to the minutes? 12:13:18 s/topic: Minutes// 12:13:23 ... any objections to publish? 12:13:25 s|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/17-wot-minutes.html Aug-17|| 12:13:35 i|any issues|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/17-wot-minutes.html Aug-17| 12:13:41 rrsagent, make log public 12:13:44 ... OK, good to publish 12:13:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:13:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:14:21 topic: Quick updates 12:14:26 topic: number of organizations haven't re-joined after the new charter 12:14:36 s/topic: Quick updates// 12:15:55 mm: there is a minimum requirement for voting a new charter for next time 12:16:40 ... maybe we should look at the membership and see if there are things we can do to get more participation 12:17:04 q+ 12:17:32 topic: Cancellation and updates 12:17:57 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellations and Schedule Updates 12:18:21 mm: the W3C calendar doesn't let us un-cancel a meeting, which causes problems 12:18:52 ... the cancellations for TPAC will be irrevocable, so we should be sure 12:19:10 ack d 12:19:34 dape: we would like to have scripting TF meetings the week before TPAC 12:19:54 ... the 5th 12:20:21 ack dape 12:21:17 mm: the usual meeting times will be inconvenient, so we should cancel most meetings 12:21:30 ... any other known non-cancellations? 12:21:47 ... do we need a main call the week before TPAC? 12:22:13 ... please let McCool know if there are any other changes 12:23:02 topic: Call Logistics - Zoom vs. WebEx 12:23:40 mm: Webex seems to have a bug, can we switch to Zoom? Siemens doesn't use Zoom internally, but attendance-only shouldn't be a problem 12:24:01 ... can we switch to Zoom for most meeting? 12:24:33 ... need to wait until we hear from Siemens, but please think about it 12:27:09 ... the calendar has new meetings added but still has current meetings that will be unscheduled when we figure out for sure which ones 12:27:41 ... also has Webex logistics which may be changed to Zoom 12:29:15 topic: APA call 12:29:48 mm: there are schedule issues 12:30:01 ... the APA feedback is important for the charter 12:30:49 topic: liaison meeting 12:31:14 i/APA call/topic: Pre-TPAC meeting/ 12:31:23 s/topic: APA/subtopic: APA/ 12:31:35 ... not sure about OPC-UA meeting, we need more time to cover subjects in depth 12:31:38 s/topic: liaison/subtopic: Liaison/ 12:31:47 topic: demos at TPAC 12:31:55 mm: who has demos? 12:32:28 i|APA call|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2022#Pre-TPAC_Agenda Pre-TPAC agenda| 12:32:38 ktoumura: yes 12:33:31 mm: (writing down the demo agenda in the wiki) 12:33:50 q? 12:34:56 kaz: planning a web-based digital twin for smart city discussion 12:35:42 s/topic: demo/subtopic: Demo/ 12:35:51 ... scheduled for 4:30 pm 12:35:55 i/mos at TPAC/topic: TPAC breakouts/ 12:36:17 i/planning/subtopic: Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities/ 12:36:32 s/scheduled/would schedule/ 12:37:04 q+ 12:37:48 mm: for marketing, planning to ask Ege to present a draft and get quick feedback 12:37:58 ack k 12:38:12 kaz: we should be careful about the use of time during TPAC 12:38:30 mm: we need to have a clear sense of the outcome by the end of the meeting 12:39:06 ... we also need to resolve the CR transition 12:39:44 i/for marketing/subtopic: TPAC WoT Agenda/ 12:39:58 ... and we need to have CR candidates ready in time for 2 weeks review 12:40:01 ... both Discovery and TD 12:40:25 ... but TD doesn't need as much work as Discovery 12:40:26 rrsagent, make log public 12:40:34 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:40:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:40:55 mm: any more thoughts on the agenda or content? 12:40:56 chair: McCool 12:41:05 regrets+ Sebastian, Ege, Lagally 12:41:16 mm: topic: charter discussion 12:41:52 ... 2 proposals for deliverables: onboarding and discovery 12:42:06 ... for discovery, we need to prioritize 12:42:11 i/Liaison meeting/topic: TPAC WoT meeting/ 12:42:19 ... fo onboarding, there is more new work needed 12:43:10 ... there is a deliverable proposals folder 12:43:28 dape: we're preparing some proposals for discussion 12:43:45 mm: the more pre-work, the better 12:44:04 ... specifically, good written proposals 12:44:18 topic: Publications 12:44:22 s/subtopic: TPAC WoT Agenda/topic: TPAC WoT meeting - revisited/ 12:44:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:44:35 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:45:20 mm: wide review on TD and discovery is done, WDs are published 12:45:30 ... still waiting for Architecture 12:45:35 s/topic: TPAC WoT meeting - revisited/topic: Post-TPAC meeting/ 12:46:12 ... there will be a short window for PR transition 12:46:41 s/mm: topic: charter/subtopic: Charter discussion/ 12:46:50 i/for marketing/subtopic: Marketing/ 12:46:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:46:52 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:46:56 topic: Liaisons 12:47:23 mm: Sebastian is organizing meetings for the OPC-UA liaison 12:47:25 i/we also need to resolve the CR transition/subtopic: CR Transition/ 12:47:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:47:27 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:47:53 ... September 15th is scheduled, but conflicts with TPAC and Kaz's availability 12:48:12 s/Charter discussion discussion/Charter discussion/ 12:48:15 ... waiting to see if Sebastian can reschedule 12:48:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:48:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:48:34 ... no news on DTDL 12:48:54 topic: TF reports 12:49:08 ... Scripting 12:49:46 dape: had a short meeting, next MOnday is cancelled, then we'll meet the wee after to discuss charter 12:50:14 s/and discovery/and Discovery/ 12:50:20 mm: security: met to discuss TAG feedback and policy issues in Architecture 12:50:50 ... Discovery: resolved a bunch if things, tracking IANA registration, many open issues 12:51:18 s/security/Security 12:51:37 s/bunch if/bunch of/ 12:51:51 ... will meet next week and add more meetings as needed to prepare for the 2 week review period 12:52:37 mm: Marketing: discussed the WoT CG and Marketing TF, how to keep track of official work in the CG 12:52:54 mm: Testing: will meet today 12:53:00 ... TD: 12:53:00 q+ 12:53:05 dape: no call this week 12:53:46 Kaz: several remaining issues, have asked Sebastian to decide the policy on adding new features 12:54:25 mm: we also need to add some stuff to Discovery, not features but need to work on the normative content 12:54:55 mm: we should limit work to bug fixes 12:55:37 mm: any other thoughts? 12:55:49 topic: Action item review 12:56:31 ... Should add the APA feedback as an action item 12:56:50 mm: what about the Japanese CG? 12:57:15 Kaz: working on the next event, WoT for the Publishing industry 12:57:44 ... working on setting a data 12:58:07 ... hoping for late September, but still working on it 12:58:15 s/data/date 12:59:08 mm: spatial data on the Web is more of a discussion group at this point, reviewing OGC work 12:59:26 mm: working on proposals for deliverables 12:59:42 ... maybe have a joint call after TPAC when proposale are ready 12:59:50 mm: any other business? 13:00:14 mm: Testing call to follow 13:00:27 mm: adjourned 13:00:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:00:40 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:57:44 Zakim has left #wot 15:56:54 bkardell_ has joined #wot