12:07:20 RRSAgent has joined #rqtf 12:07:21 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-rqtf-irc 12:07:22 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:07:22 Zakim has joined #rqtf 12:07:24 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 12:07:24 Date: 24 August 2022 12:07:31 present+ 12:07:39 chair: jasonjgw 12:07:44 scribe+ jasonjgw 12:08:24 agenda+ Accessibility of collaboration tools. 12:08:24 agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. 12:08:24 agenda+ Joint working group meetings at TPAC 2022. 12:09:04 agenda+ Miscellaneous topics. 12:56:41 janina has joined #rqtf 12:56:44 present+ 13:01:51 SteveNoble has joined #rqtf 13:01:59 present+ 13:03:07 present+ Scott 13:03:15 present+ Joshue 13:03:54 zakim, next item 13:03:54 agendum 1 -- Accessibility of collaboration tools. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:04:05 scribe: SteveNoble 13:05:05 jasonjgw: Integrated some text about the use of messaging systems within these tools 13:05:33 Scott: Vote for merge and improve 13:05:47 jasonjgw: +1 13:06:33 jasonjgw: Would be good for all of us to look at this language and add comments and opinions 13:07:34 janina: Brought COGA up to speed on this work 13:09:54 janina: May want to expand the outreach to EO 13:10:06 scott: +1 13:10:37 Scott: getting as much input as possible will be very valuable 13:11:30 Joshue108: +1 13:13:33 Joshue108: Also, there are issues around accessibility testing tools which themselves are not accessible 13:13:53 Scott: +1 13:14:48 Scott: This probably doesn't really belong in the current document, but would be great as another document 13:16:38 present+ 13:17:13 +1 to Scott that the CAUR may not be a good place for this a11y testing idea 13:17:32 jasonjgw: These tools seem all to be covered by WCAG\ 13:18:30 Joshue108: This needs to be a front and center issue 13:18:49 q? 13:19:35 Joshue108: One thing the "AUR" documents do which is very valuable is to pin down user requirements that have often been overlooked 13:20:00 +1 to Scott 13:20:17 Scott: Agree...there is a lot of complexity to this issue 13:21:21 janina: The fact that people who are most needing accessibility are the ones who cannot use these tools is a devastating issue 13:22:16 janina: Question: do these tools count as "user agents" or "authoring tools"?? 13:22:34 scott: Good question! 13:22:50 We need to take the a11y testing tools out of their liminal position, in terms of where the responsibilities lie, and get that discussion going 13:23:26 jasonjgw: These tools may not fall squarely into one specific existing guidelines 13:23:52 janina: Some new aspects may be covered in WCAG 3 13:24:23 jasonjgw: Suggest we circle back to this issue at a later date 13:24:42 All: +1 all around 13:25:07 zakim, next item 13:25:07 agendum 2 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:25:30 jasonjgw: Should be ready to go 13:25:44 Joshue108: Seems fine - think we are good to go 13:26:08 jasonjgw: We had a resolution last week, so I think we are ready 13:26:18 janina: Will reach out to Roy 13:27:02 zakim, next item 13:27:02 agendum 3 -- Joint working group meetings at TPAC 2022. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:27:26 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022#Scheduled_Meetings 13:27:42 janina: Meeting planning still in the works 13:28:28 janina: The wiki will be the place to track these meetings 13:31:01 janina: RQTF TPAC meeting will be Tuesday 9:00 AM Eastern 13:33:04 janina: Propose we spend some time next week going over what we need to discuss in out TPAC meeting 13:33:27 jasonjgw: Will put on agenda 13:33:56 janina: Will find the link about the middleware accessibility issue 13:34:52 janina: Monday morning joint meeting with AGWG and COGA 13:35:15 janina: at 8:30 AM Pacific time 13:37:59 janina: TPAC Tuesday morning meeting about Reporting API (not sure exact time) 13:39:14 janina: RTC meeting; overlaps another meeting 13:39:41 janina: We may need to split coverage over the two meetings 13:40:25 janina: Thursday morning with EPUB 13:43:05 janina: ARIA has a number of issues to discuss 13:43:55 janina: Internationalization - we hope to see better support 13:45:26 janina: meeting about coordinating adding issues and comments on specs 13:46:01 janina: Looking at making SAUR into a normative document 13:47:40 janina: We'll have to separate out the elements which are mainstream without an accessibility connection 13:51:11 jasonjgw: Other comments on TPAC meetings? 13:51:43 scott: All sounds good 13:52:18 Subtopic: Accessibility at the Edge Community Group 13:52:24 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2022/SessionIdeas#Accessibility_at_the_Edge 13:52:49 janina: Breakout session on Wednesday 13:54:35 janina: looking at some controversial things like overlays 13:55:56 jasonjgw: Perhaps things like automated speech-to-text for captions? 13:57:43 janina: Perhaps guidance on when that is acceptable and when not (live vs. when a recorded video gets loaded to a website) 13:58:30 jasonjgw: Language models on text processing is really expanding automated technigues 13:59:01 zakim, next item 13:59:01 agendum 4 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:59:47 jasonjgw: that's it 13:59:51 zakim, bye 13:59:52 leaving. 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